Next-Gen Fact and Fiction
By
Eddie Makuch, News Editor
GameSpot rounds up everything we know--and everything we think we know--about the Wii U, the PlayStation 4, and the Next Xbox.
The PlayStation 4
If rumors and speculation on the next-generation of consoles were water, the Xbox 720 would be a lake next to the PlayStation 4's puddle. That said, there's still some talk about Sony's new system.
Acknowledgement
Perhaps the most solid information concerning the PS4 came from Sony chief financial officer Masaru Kato, who confirmed in May 2011 that a PlayStation 3 successor was in development. He spilled the beans in a post-earnings report conference call.
When explaining why Research and Development costs were so high, he said, "The PS3 still has a product life, but this is a platform business, so for the future platform--when we'll be introducing what product I cannot discuss that--but our development work is already under way, so the costs are incurred there." (Emphasis added.)
Timing?
Two months later, rumors indicated Sony was readying the PS4 for release as early as 2012. The news came from Taiwan-based component makers, who only said the system will allow for motion control in some manner; the Move 2 perhaps?
And in September of that year, new word cropped up saying the PS4 was being readied for 2013. However, it wasn't clear if that rumor was related to when Sony will announce the console, or when it will release it.
Software Development Already Under Way?
An even more recent rumor suggested game development on the PS4 was already happening. A source said several Sony-owned studios were completing "preliminary work" on PS4 games. No studios or games were listed, but a rumor that arrived just a month later claimed the very same thing: Sony was already at work on games for the PS4.
E3 2012 Unveil?
More reports have suggested Sony would be bringing the PS4 to E3 2012. The "third-party publishing sources" in question had little else to share, saying only that the system would have its coming-out party at the annual trade show, which runs June 5-7, 2012, in Los Angeles.
No. Never Mind. No E3 2012 Unveil.
That rumor was short-lived, however. During CES 2012, Sony's Kaz Hirai shot down the speculation, saying the technology giant has "no plans" to make any PS4 announcements at E3 2012. The Sony executive also reiterated the company's belief that the PS3 will enjoy a 10-year life cycle and that there is "no reason to rush it with a new system."
Sony Will Be Last, Says Sony.
Lastly, early last week, Sony said it expects to be the last of the Big Three to announce its next console. With Nintendo already having unveiled its next-gen tech--the Wii U--that leaves the competition to be last as a bout between Microsoft and Sony.
Will There Be a PlayStation 4 at All?
Following the release of the PlayStation 3 in 2006 and immediately after Kaz Hirai was promoted to president of SCEI, one analyst predicted Sony would move away from hardware to instead focus its attention on software.
"The appointment of Hirai could be the start of a shift from hardware to software," said Nomura Securities' Yuta Sakurai at the time. "I cannot now imagine a PlayStation 4."
If Hirai weren't in a position to make the rumored hardware-to-software shift in 2006, he is now. Hirai has been promoted to president and CEO of Sony, making him the top man at the Japanese technology giant. If such a directional shift is to occur, Hirai now has the power to do it.
Naughty Dog Is Onboard, but What Is It Building?
A recent job listing at the Santa Monica, California-based Uncharted shop indicates the studio is at work on next-generation games, and as a wholly owned Sony studio, you can expect the "next-gen" to be in reference to the PS4.
The studio's current project is The Last of Us, but that's a PlayStation 3 game. Whatever the case, the next-gen game(s) in development at Naughty Dog are going to be mighty advanced pieces of digital art it seems. The job description asks for someone to create characters with 1 million polygons, which is well above Uncharted 2's 80,000 per-character polygon count.
Will it be powered by AMD?
Former AMD employees say the PlayStation 4 will run on an AMD processor. This would be a departure from the PlayStation 3, which sports a graphics processing unit made by major competitor Nvidia.
The PS4 won't use the Sony Cell processor?
Industry sources say the PS4 will not make use of Sony's Cell processor, or any advancement of the technology. The Sony Cell processor was introduced with the PlayStation 3, before Sony abandoned future Cell development based on its high cost.
The PS4 is actually called the Orbis? And it will lock out used games and not be backwards compatible?
This is a heavy one. A tipster told Kotaku that the PlayStation 4 will be called the Orbis. It's not clear if that's a working title or the actual name of the forthcoming system. On top of that, the source said the system will feature a system that locks out used games. And on top of that, the Orbis will reportedly not offer any kind of backwards compatibility.
By
Eddie Makuch, News Editor
Eddie Makuch (Mack-ooh) is a News Editor at GameSpot. He works out of the company's Boston office in Somerville, Mass., and loves extra chunky peanut butter.
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Try as they might to block out used games, and console can be cracked one way or another, it's inevitable. Hell you can play Wii games from a usb external hard drive now.
1 Like I'll only buy a new console if it's backwards compatible and it's able to play used games; that I either purchase or borrow from friends. Otherwise it's too much of and expense that I can't even justify in my mind (let alone to my wife).
The main reason why I brought a PS3 over the box 360 was it's backward compatibility feature. Ditch that and there is no reason why I shouldn't buy a Xbox next time.
No used game =No buy
I only keep one console of each buy the new give away the old no worry cause I now it will play all my old game what would I do with my old game that I replay. that would be the most arrogant and stupid , we accepted the lock code and we don't play these games any more. huh (EA). Now I cant play used game on my new console LOL.
SO KEEP THEM !!!
As for the no-used-games bit? Probably because all of their games will be on the cloud (Nvidia is looking into cloud gaming themselves..)..or will be sd cards you offload onto your console's HDD and then the sd card is rendered "useless" somehow. (?)
i agree sega genesis 2 please with a disk tray and cartridge slot for genesis games and 250 gb of memory with rechargable controllers and a new classic commercial like from the ninties
I'm done being burned by Sega consoles. I had high hopes for the dreamcast thinking they finally got it right, then when it died I remember looking in my Sega mag with it saying "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated". What a pile of shit. Genesis was bad ass though, as was Sega Channel.
pfft..just give me my genesis and sega channel from the 90's..they can keep the next gen consoles..lol
1 Like if any console locks out used game usage, I for one refuse to have anything to do with it. Its ludicrous and its a stupid ploy to suck more money from gamers.
I am aware that some people can stand to pre-order and pay full price for every game they want and get the extra content and blah blah blah, but as a gamer on a budget the used game industry is pretty much the only way i can even play games.
If game devs want to make their games unavailable to play used or have online codes, thats fine, its their game, and I just wont play it. No big deal. Same goes for consuls, but they console devs have no right to do that.
Oh and AMD is garbage, PS4 and new Xbox are going to look like crap, I'm SOOO glad I got a new graphics card and when another better Nvidia chip comes out for cheaper, I can upgrade practically free. GO PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeh..sadly for the few of us pc gamers left out here...we get few games...and when we do..we get crap like Diablo 3 and ports of console games that dated computer hardware can run..(so much for that gtx 680? this crap can run a gts 8800!).Thanks to piracy and whatnot..no one wants to make/support pc gaming anymore..(atleast not like it was in the 90's)As for the bashing on AMD..I'll let that slide..my $700 computer has yet to run a game it can't play maxxed 1920x1080 with acceptable frame rates..lol(and then the 4kHD monitors come out..and I will need to upgrade again..so much for my 6870 )
Playing games is a blissful and heavenly experience which only who play know it. Why on earth would Sony want people to buy the PS4 and not let them play games of the previous PS versions. So either people keep two consoles or more if they want to play PS 1 or 2 games or just throw all the great game experiences out of the window. Playing games and being associated with them is nostalgic and its a feeling hard to describe. Why do these companies sell us games like products of mass use. Sony listen to the people who make you who you are, these are experiences, a window of our imaginations. Don't do the unthinkable of restricting us from enjoying what you made for us to enjoy. You are going to loose lots of people and over that respect if you don't tune your frequency and wavelength with the people who put you on that place.
It would be unfortunate if the PS4 abandons the Cell processor; it would probably mean no backwards compatibility with PS3 games, because of how unique the Cell's architecture is. Emulation would be extremely difficult.
1 Like Wouldn't locked consoles prevent game rentals?
Don't game rentals shops constitute a large portion of the purchases of a title, to stock in all their locations?
Seems a bit like shooting themselves in the foot.
1 Like i have to say sony if you locks out used game or have no backwards compatibility. i am done with your concel
1 Like Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony need to come together and make ONE system, drive up the price because demand will be extremely high and watch as they take over the world!
I'm not sure what console I'll go with next gen. I took a long break from the Xbox 360 when the COD online craze took over, and when Kinect started being pushed. Gamings going a direction I dont like, I miss the days of popping in a game and having fun...not this big online deal and add ons required. I feel a big part of the problem are the developers not making quality games like they once did.
The Xbox and Xbox 360 were great and I think Microsoft knows what they're doing but I really need to be impressed or feel the old way of gaming to go back to the Next box.
As far as Sony goes, I've never cared for the Playstations after the first one...the controller, games, and entire persona of the Playstation turns me away. Ever since the Dreamcast and PS2 rumble I've hated Sony.
The Wii U, so far I'm liking alot...but questioning alot. As of now I would get one...but the 1st and 3rd party titles need to wow me to jump on board
Now if Sega crawled out from under a rock and announced a system I would buy it no matter what.
you will never see MS doing it again. X box will be positioned as a main entertainment device at home not a hardcore gaming platform because the market is bigger. It will target more and more casual gamers, families etc... with movie rentals, shoping, internet browsing etc...
1 Like As more rumors are being spawned from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, the more I have a feeling that they're trying a little too hard to make their gaming platforms 'different'. (Wii-U's tablet-thingie, Xbox possibly focusing on the kinect, PS4 potentially focusing on move or not existing at all,). I think this generation will be the one that finally crosses the line from 'awesome gaming machines' to 'trying too hard''.
Got a feeling I'll be sticking to my good ol' PC for awhile.
FYI I Had a PS2 for years lot of fun on it just bought a PS3 hardly use it except for playing DVDS, I'm officially a PC gamer. I have only upgraded the graphics card[$200] on my computer in 7yrs and i can still play games on it.Not on Maxed out settings but still high or medium and the graphics are awesome.
that crapstation is way better then the xcox disks don't break from knocking over the system,bluray disks,no battery packs for controler,playstation move is more responsive and easier to use, and you don't need to pay for ps3 online and it's the same thing as xbox live all the xbox fans are doing is giving a rich man money
@RitsukoEX @LanceCypher You have no logic on which to base that statement. Nintendo made an error with the Wii's tech, but lets not forget, they've been in this business way longer than Sony or Microsoft. They're not idiots.
@RitsukoEX @Albaficas When the Next Xbox shows us something different from a million FPS games and slim first party support, then you can talk about how great it is. In the meantime, lets not count our chickens till their hatched.
@Aktiv16 Yeah... you're right.... Did you think that I thought Nintendo made the Dreamcast? What made you think that?
@GodOfSyn i was thinking the same thing by just letting us upgrade our consoles. So if you want the best settings go buy a good v-card. They probably make there on type of proprietary cards to make money though, but it still will be great to upgrade down the line. We all know devs will be complaining in the first few years in the development cycle. But once they get familiar with the process their games get better and we'll have to upgrade the v-card to get the better graphics.
1 Like I'm so excited for these consoles. It's going to be so amazing. I'd prefer 3-5 year console cycles personally, because like anything electronic, specifically computers, they are on similar life cycles, at least in an IT environment with our vendors, and at previous companies. I know its not the best business practice for a company like Sony or Miscrosoft who are out to make money, but we will get the best product, best graphics if they are able to continually upgrade the hardware, unless they design a PC type system where end users like ourselves can constantly upgrade the components when they are launched for the system, that way its not required for those that cannot afford to upgrade, but will unlock the highest settings in future games for the platform! That would truly be a 10-15 year life cycle!
both the ps4 and next xbox workers are so dumb. i will never buy a gaming console that forces you to be online all the time. unreal!!
Someone tell me why I got the feeling this "Orbis" project is NOT meant to be the successor of the PS3 at all, but rather a completely individual gaming hardware project of sony? Is it just the statement that a PS4 is not imagined (instead there is such a codename like orbis), or the rumor of a lack of backwards compatibility...?
all the imformation about sony and their next gen console is just rumors they are NOT proven facts so everyone who is talking shit about sony can sux it because everytime they made a console they succeeded with flying colors did you know that the most sold console is the PS2 and the second most sold console is the PS1 and the tenth is the PS3
If Sony and MS are going to lock their systems and make them only playable online (with internet connectivity) then I'll be no longer a Big Fan of the PlayStation and will go then with the Wii U.
Nintendo not wanting to pay for DVD or Bluray is the reason they aren't including it. Silly to say something that does Netflix won't do DVD, that goes against each other. I have four devices that play Netflix, the difference is Nintendo doesn't have to pay the fee for Netflix.
@spydax1 I doubt that Nintendo would attempt to market a system that sports 6-year-old technology. More likely, the Wii U will have notably higher capabilities than the PS3 and 360. I'm more concerned of the possible capabilities of the other Next-Gen machines, because they will, likely, have access to greater levels of tech due to later release dates. At least it's unlikely that they will use less than brilliant tech in their newest system. They ought to have learned that lesson from the non-HD Wii
I believe that Nintendo has there work cut out for them when the wii u is finally released sure it will have the ability to play in 1080i but you know its like saying when nintendo's wii u can do what the xbox 360 can do and the Playstation 3, sony will be releasing there PS4 and Microsoft will release there xbox 3 this will put Nintendo new system behind again unless nintendo releases some kind of expansion unit to the wii u that will update the graphics but then nintendo has the tablet controller to also consider hmm well will the tablet controller push out the same graphic capability as the wii u or less and will there be some kind of upgrade to the tablet controllers along with the wii u system?
Microsoft needs to just adopt Sony's approach to online purchases; You want to buy DLC, a game, a movie? The store tells you how much it is (in real money, not points so that you can't keep track of how much you're ACTUALLY spending), and you pay that much. No money/points left over. If it's $5.99, it says $5.99, you pay $5.99. Simple. There's not much that I prefer my PS3 over my 360 for, but making online purchases is a no-brainer. Sony got it right.
Until Nintendo can prove that 3rd party support is on board with their "next gen" console, only then with I take interest. I'm tired of bying their stuff and only ending up with 1st perty games.
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