I was lucky enough to get a micro console @ Eurogamer Expo and I have to say i'm mega impressed. I do agree that sometimes the graphics are a little pixely, but I think this will definitely improve.
You can now play demos of popular games instantly through GameSpot UK's new partnership with cloud gaming service OnLive.
Maybe you're still on the fence about throwing some cash down on a particular game you've been considering? Well, GameSpot UK is making that decision a little easier by partnering with the cloud gaming service known as OnLive, which has now launched in the UK.
OnLive is a cloud gaming service, so you never have to worry about hardware requirements or compatibility because the games are all running on OnLive's own hardware--all you need is a decent Internet connection. It all sounds like some crazy magic act, no doubt only made possible thanks to fairies, unicorns, and Internet wizards.
You can try it out for yourself by simply visiting one of our gamespaces that has an OnLive demo, like Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine and Dirt 3. All you need to do is head over to the OnLive website, download the small client for PC or Mac, register for your free account, and click "Play It Now." A few moments later, you'll be mowing down an army of Orcs or hooning at ridiculous speeds around a Finnish race track. Each OnLive demo is 30 minutes long, so you'll have plenty of time to enjoy the game, and even better, it's completely free. Give it a try and let us know what you think in the comments below.
If you want to check out some other games with OnLive demos, here's just a small sampling:
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine DiRT 3 Red Faction: Armageddon
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction
Just Cause 2
Upcoming day and date demos:
Saints Row: The Third
tbh i think this is amazing BUT the visuals at this moment in time feel 'pixely' like kinda of a low res smudginess to them! prob cos i am on 3mb connection, but the gameplay is smooth just the gfx are low rez!! i think this is prob gonna be the future of gaming though, well digital downloads for sure and maybe streaming will take off as well!
XD whats ironic is that I can't buffer this video in one go but I can stream games with Onlive with ease...
@Equilibriate I understand that quite well, thank you very much. my comment is not regarding whether this new feature is good for OnLive, but was questioning exactly what the advantage was for us Gamespotters.
@traykey1 I couldn't of put it better myself. I personally prefer to 'own' the game, physically if possible. Doesn't feel right paying money for something you don't really get to keep. It's a bit like multiplayer servers, you pay the cash but after a while the servers fade and sadly so does the game. You'll also find that allot of people in the UK have terrible broadband connection speeds (still!) so I can't see this being practical for all.
I have a standard internet connection of 10MB and as long as no one else in my house is using the internet, onlive works perfectly. It's a great service but I'd really need to upgrade my internet connection f I want to make the most out of it.
@eddieham13 Yes indeed, I completely understand how you feel. I'm aware that internet packages often aren't going to be good enough to use this service. This is the main reason I'm still spending money on upgrading my PC ready for the next few years. Don't get me wrong, there are some packages out there that will be sufficient even now, mainly ones with no data usage and speed management in place. Plusnet in Yorkshire seem to do ones aimed at gamers that look good and competitive. Only recently the first Satellite broadband has started to be offered for residential use, this could very well be where the fastest connections come from later on. I'm definitely going to be waiting a fair while till considering "switching" to a cloud streaming service, OnLive or different (gamestop in US are starting one and Game/Gamestation UK will have to if they don't want to go bust). Competitive multi-player is a large chunk of my gaming life and the kind of speeds/pings we have now just won't cut the mustard I'm afraid! @da_nibbler - Clearly you have no understanding of how marketing and businesses work.
@Equilibriate I did have a look at them and was not to happy about VM afterwards, its like you dont get what you pay for to be honest. Anyway yeah, I get you, but I would prefer to be able to play like I do with any other game.. whenever I want for as long as I want. In my opinion you would have to get a better internet package to enjoy onlive as more of a permanent replacement for consoles and PC gaming. Also I agree that over time higher speeds will be cheaper and the top speeds will increase to higher amounts (currently 50 in UK). I have played onlive (US) with 3MB/s and it ran fine, except for ping which caused slight lag (not framerate... lag) Although after about 30 mins of playing, the cap hit hard, and the resolution of my game went down so much I couldn't make anything out and then the game closed down telling me I didn't have enough speed or something.
SPBoss, I've tried playing deus ex HR at midnight here in the UK, via virginmedia 10mb connection and had no lag. Hopefully thats a sign that its more stable than we all thought it would be. ps i using a MBA (2010) so its not a monster piece of equipment either, which i know is not the point but still think its worth pointing out to people too.
da_nibbler its so that you can read the site, and see a game and be able to try it there and then, its just a convenience thing more than anything else i'd say
aren't these demos available on OnLive no matter whether you click on them on Gamespot or go to OnLive directly? Or maybe that is just the case with the ones I have tried...... or is the novelty that you can click on it right here on Gamespot? *confused*
Doesn't even work in Australia because of "High latency" What a load of bull! I have good internet speed! And it's ADSL 2+! Will they get Australian servers or disappoint us all like everyone else does? WE MATTER TOO!
Wow, onlive is an AMAZING piece of equipment! I can't believe i haven't seen this before, this might actually wipe consoles and replace it because it much better in the near future!! But thats only if people come to their senses
Decent internet connection has an average of 40ms ping = 40ms delay When considering their servers compress the bandwidth there's additional 5-10ms. Then theres the 5-10ms delay on your displays response rate. At best the average internet user is looking at 60ms delay. Not good enough for racing games or any fast paced games. Before any fellow gamespotters jump the gun, this is not the same as getting a 60ms with online multiplayers. In Onlives case all data is streamed = All data lags, including your own player. Whilst consoles and pc's only the location data, etc is streamed. (the rest is stored locally)
I'll come back in a few months when this has been worked out a bit better (can't sign up, fair usage policies, general pains in the arse!) really looking forward to it working smoothly.
@eddieham13 Did you check out that link I posted to the Virgin media traffic management table? Although you are correct to an extent, the cap only comes into play between 10am-3pm and 4pm-9pm. So "you should not use onlive for the reason that after around 1 or 2 hours of playing, the game will begin to run horribly and you will probably not even be able to play" is not strictly correct. If you normally play during these hours then it may cause a problem, but for a large number of people who game at other times (i.e late at night) it won't matter AT ALL! Also a lot of people could time it just right, like start playing at 8~8.30pm to avoid hitting the cap. The main thing to keep in mind is that, as this type of game and media delivery gets more and more popular (which it will), the ISPs will in turn offer better services to provide for them. I'm also interested to see how Onlive performs on 2.5Mb/s, I know it's below the minimum speed stated but there is often a buffer in these type of things. The reason I wonder this is because that happens to be the speed that Virgin caps it's 10Mb/s package to (75% reduction). I have a PC capable of handling pretty much anything I throw at it but if I may try this out and hit the cap to see how it performs. I'll ket people know if I do and if anyone already has any experiences of this, please let us know!
Please note everyone that if your ISP reduces your download speed because of their fair usage policy then you should not use onlive for the reason that after around 1 or 2 hours of playing maybe less the limit will kick in meaning the game will begin to run horribly and you will probably not even be able to play. You need to make sure you check out your fair usage policy to see if you can still have the minimum specs (3mb) even after your speed has been limited... so your probably gonna have to use one of the more expensive packages to use Onlive, for example Virgin Media's 50MB package. (which has not fair use limit, but it costs a lot). Though I think if you had a 20MB package you will be fine. as when your limit kicks in you should still have enough speed to handle the games.
Don't know if I can post a link to a pic' but I'll try! http://www.virginmedia.com/images/tm-table-su-large.jpg That pic' details exactly what "speed management" virgin media slap on their packages atm. With a bit of forethought you can pretty easily avoid getting speed capped for the most part. I haven't tried this Onlive yet but I've been following it for nearly 3 years now as I'm convinced this will be the way most gaming will be delivered in the future. All that's holding it back is the average connection speed for people but that's always increasing. Even the next mobile broadband tech' has been tested in the lab @ 100mb/s (perfect conditions probably) and if it's half that in reality then we'll all be laughing! If anyone doubts this get prepared to eat some humble pie in the future, mark my words. ;) So too all you console/PC fanboys out there make the most of the next upcoming generation of hardware as it will probably be the last you'll ever own.
Brilliant. It works really well. I had misgivings but it is great. Playing on BT ADSL 2+ service 6.1 down 1.0 ipstream.
@ daveg1 yh i noticed that too... whenever i download more than 2gb or so, my internet gets so slow that i cant even play online without lag. I dont even think onlive would load in that situation. i rarely download large files so I still get around 9 of the 10mb i pay for from virgin media.
the problem in the uk is, the standard connection speeds is ten meg but after you have downloaded only something like 100kb of info your connection gets whacked down to somethying like 2mb at diffrent times of the day.. this is on virmin media and bt is so slow that onlive would gbe pants.. you have to pay extra for the speeds your actualy meant to be getting..
despite this I think i may cling to the crazy idea of prefering to actually own a hard physical copy of my games in my hand ... not just the license to use one which may become useless if the publisher withdraws from the service or the game is removed in 20 years time ... but thats just me
@jedikevin2 good point...i would like to just point out that i am primarily a console gamer at the moment so your likely more knowledgeable about this...though i did say "potentially" save money, im not suggesting it is the solution for everyone but im sure it can be reasonably beneficial for those whom would prefer higher settings than their pc is capable of yet dont want to splash out on expensive upgrades. but i agree this service would probably work better in countries with faster internet connections...but as long as western countries improve our own connections (which is taking too long in my opinion) then there should be a growing number of potential customers here in the near future. @Pikachy666 thats not what i was suggesting...i dont expect the service to be ideal for all pc gamers. your probably right that it wouldn't be able to support that many users now but i seriously doubt that many people would start using the service instantly, though as Onlive grows in popularity it will upgrade and expand to be able to accommodate more and more users.
Just found the answer on wiki on live's been running for over a year with just over 150 games reminds me of a porn website looks attractive before you hand over your credit card details but when you do you find out your getting ripped off...lol
@hexhunter222 how long has on live been running in the usa? I've just looked at the American website and there are 156 games to choose from which is way less than a traditional shop. I think I would begrudge paying 60 dollars for arkham city and the UK on live is selling assassins creed brother hood for 35 quid, you can get it in the shops now for a tenner! May look at on live in a couple of years time but will probably try out the demos on my lap top out of curiosity
@darran05 The subscription is only part of the service, most games can be rented at £1-£2 a day. Before the UK service opened I was playing the 30 minute trial of Splinter Cell Conviction and it worked suprisingly smoothly even over the atlantic. They've created a very good environment for gamers to pick and mix. Also if you buy your 1st game in the next few weeks it will only cost £1.
@jakesnakeel Uhm how else are you going to use the service without a username? Its takes 10 seconds to sign up
in my country buying a high specked machine is cheaper than maintaining a "decent" internet connection lol
I dont think anyone can argue that this type of service is the future of gaming. But the future is not here just yet. I have played a few of the demos and as a demo service, this is very good. A chance to play a game with all the features for 30min gives you an excellent idea of how you will play the game. I have the best package Virgin UK offers and I live next door to the exchange and I still get a break up in service throughout a game. Obviously they have some things to tweek, but its just not there yet.... for me.
Amazing! I was very sceptical about this service when I first heard about it but I've just played 30 mins of Dirt 3 on my 5 year old PC and it ran perfectly! Just signed up for the full service. This is the future of gaming right here, right now.....Xbox who?
Well, I can't speak about PC gaming since I don't partake in it. However, to be able to try a game for 30 minutes before I get it for my 360 sounds like a pretty good deal to me. I'll definitely give it a shot.
I don't know what people are scared of , OnLive is just another way to play games and it is interesting , I was afraid of it at first but I realized that if someone has more choice than console or PC it is a good thing for them , it is just another competitior in the market but it will never take over the consoles or PCs.
I think a lot of people are missing one of the key features, You can pull out some lame laptop from 5-10 years ago and start playing recent games. If you have a crazy advanced PC, OnLive obviously isn't for you. On the other hand, if like me, your sat in a hotel for a week on a mid performance machine, well it certainly beats watching TV!!!
This sounds like an awesome use of OnLive technology. I'll try it after they remove the "register for your free account" step. Let me download the small client and try the game. Why ruin something that simple with registration requirements?
This is the best thing gamespot has ever done. No more spending money on unplayable games. Thanks a lot
@element - 1.5mbps is 3g speed u cant even run halo with that connection. id say u need at least 5mbps to run it
the good about onlive is that the games are cheap i have gotten 6 games now for $3.50 a piece (just cause 2, split sec., HAWX 2, Splitter cell convection,pure,Mafia II)
I tried it, I wasnt impressed. It lagged really bad, despite my 1.5mbps download speed, and despite the fact that I was plugged directly into the router. Im off in the boonies though so that could be why. Either way I wont be buying this product.
sorry, id actually much rather upgrade my computer than use onlive, controlling a youtube video with lag isnt very appealing