EA has 3-5 new IPs for next generation

 @Sepewrath Yeah, and when PC gamers look at things like Kinect and PS Move, which in -some cases- offer innovations that improve gameplay, they dismiss them as "pure gimmickry" and pretend that there's nothing their mouse + keyboard can't do.

Also, low-end rigs don't really offer any more than consoles. If a machine only has 2 gb of RAM, and more than half of that is taken up by Windows, then the amount of power that a game is able to use is fairly comparable to a PS3 or 360.

 @PeterDuck Okay. Whatever that meant.

 @mario-nin-freak 

what you just said about my "opinion" is that your opinion and it is not shared by the majority of the population.

 @PeterDuck That's just an opinion. It's not shared by the majority of the population. *You're* Sorry about that.

 @mario-nin-freak 

that's what next gen is mostly about.

and it's "you are"

 @PeterDuck You consider graphics the decider of each generation of gaming? Ugh, sorry your wrong.

 @egger7577 These are words of a genius. The last sentence is 100% truth.

 @PeterDuck  @i-like-me Anyone who mentions consoles are holding PC's back always forget PC exclusive games with lesser graphics like WoW, and recently Elder Scrolls Online, are held back to ensure maximum distribution across all builds of PC's. There may be options to improve the graphics, but ultimately, things can only be improved so far because the minimum design is set so far back. A lot of people don't own the most up to date gaming rigs and devs have to consider that when they design PC games these days. So, the next time you want to whine about console tech, remember this: the success of games like WoW have done a heck of a lot more to propogate the "appeal to the lowest common denominator" design philosophy for PC gaming than anything that has happened on consoles.  And no, patched graphical upgrades doesn't count. It's not much of a step up and really doesn't advance the game. It's a new paint job at best.

 @PeterDuck I meant to make them not to buy them as much as something like battlefield 3 looks light years ahead of games on console only a company like EA with a well established brand as battlefield could justify the cost of doing something like. Could you imagine how hard it would be for a new IP to be successful if battlefield 3 graphics became the expected level you just would end up with more and more cookie cutter sequels.

The last couple years of a console generation is usually the best time to be a PC gamer, which of course is now.

 @i-like-me 

Don't worry, I dont do personal crap and ad-homs , unlike 95% of gamespot users.

actually console games are on average $ 10 more expensive than PC games. PC games on steam are on average 10$ less and there is no retail tax. Also, steam has 40 million users, a substantial amount.

 @egger7577 Yeah I admit that if you want the most cutting edge tech you have to go with PC's. I get where you're coming from.

With this console generation stretching out there seems to be a lot of console vs PC argument going on with people standing by one and rudely dismissing the other.

Personally I prefer consoles more, simply because that is where the franchises I play can only be found but that doesn't mean I dismiss the PC.

Oh I'll still be gaming on consoles, mostly for exclusives but all multiplats I'll be picking up on the PC. The argument was about next gen technology and not necessarily gameplay or story. Remember, if you're talking about next gen, it can be done now at home on a PC. That's my argument; EA doesn't need to wait for the future to develop the games. They also did create Origin so they must have something up their sleeve.

The point I was making is that a lot of people make up excuses why they perfer consoles without actually playing a good game on the PC. Video games are the only market where you see such fanboyism. How many people are going to dispute that their Honda Civic is better than a Ferrari without driving one; probably none.

 @egger7577  I don't know what the deal is with PC elitism. Many of the best games of all time are on consoles and the only way to play the latest from Nintendo, Sony, and some third parties. I'm more concerned with gameplay and story than graphics.

If you like PC better that;s fine but why the arrogant condescending attitude about it?

 @PeterDuck If it weren't for consoles games would be too expensive to make consoles keep the budgets realistic and this is coming from a PC gamer before you accuse me of being a console fanboy or something

Most people that argue in favor of the consoles are too lazy to do anything better and are satisfied with substandard gaming. They lack any technical expertise or know how, nor care to learn anymore. Lastly, they're 12 years old, have no money and received one as a Christmas gift from their parents. Plus don't even get me started on the "I perfer consoles because I like to lay on my couch argument either". This can be done on a PC and only compounds to the laziness argument.

I recently used to be a console only gamer via PS3 mostly because I was uneducated in anything else. I absoluletly loved, loved BF3 when it released but I knew there was a much much better version out there I couldn't play. Suffice to say, I built a new PC after doing some research and I don't regret a moment of it. For starters, the game looks absolutely friggan beautiful, it's larger, faster paced and better controlled. Except for maybe a couple exclusives I want to try down the road, I won't be using the PS3 anymore except for Bluray. Trust me, until you sit in front of a PC in true HD with everything in real time, you have no clue what your missing.

 @okassar 

"Most people that own consoles wouldn't care to update their graphics card or anything like that"

umm, because they can't. You cant update your console graphics card.

'Less gamers = companies competing for fewer customers = less capacity for developers = less good games."

catch 22.

The points you have mentioned having to do with my main point about current generation of consoles entrenching and establishing themselves enough in the society wherein few console gamers want new generation gaming because they are perfectly happy with their 6-7 year old hardware, THUS limiting the devs capabilities and desire for creating next gen. gaming. Frankly I am surprised there is even talk of next gen. gaming. It is clear that most console players would prefer to play the same console for decades.

"Developers know exactly how every 360 or every PS3 is going to handle a particular game."

I've played plenty of console games that lagged in the 23-25 FPS area. You wouldn't encounter that problem on a mid-powerful PC. MORE SO, don't forget, most console games they make have to be within the similar graphical capabilities within a generation, and most devs keep using same engines over and over again, like unreal engine 3. There is little room for advancement within one generation of consoles. And now we can barely get to next gen because people will keep saying: "I am perfectly happy with my xbox"

"Lastly, I will never hook up my damn computer to the TV, and I like laying down on my couch with a controller in my hand and a nice blanket while facing my 60" plasma."

personal preference, hence irrelevant to my point about consoles holding up and postponing technological gaming progress.

 @PeterDuck Consoles most definitely progress gaming. Most people that own consoles wouldn't care to update their graphics card or anything like that, so they wouldn't be gaming nearly as much if it weren't for consoles. Less gamers = companies competing for fewer customers = less capacity for developers = less good games. That's not accounting for piracy either, which is much more common among the "PC master race."

There's also the development advantage. Developers know exactly how every 360 or every PS3 is going to handle a particular game. It quickens the development process and gives developers more time to focus on important things.

Lastly, I will never hook up my damn computer to the TV, and I like laying down on my couch with a controller in my hand and a nice blanket while facing my 60" plasma.