Final Wii U hardware to be at E3 2012

Don't know about this product...

Oh my god! This is why I don't like Nintendo's consoles. Their controllers are a mess! Look at all these damn things! The tablet, wiimote, wii board, nunchuk, etc. I don't want to have all this crap lying around! That's why I stick to their handhelds. Less hastle just to play a game.

Wow! I can draw...on the new controller!!

i don't buy a console for the amount of cores or ghz. i buy whatever console has the most fun games. if i want power i play on my i7. and this is why i own a wii.

Honestly.. I probably just haven't done all my homework on this system/controller, but by the looks of it, it looks like another portable system. Didn't they just release a 3DS? Seriously, this thing reminds me of a PSP. I really hope when they start showing this thing at the E3 2012 they have more then just a controller, because I'm not really impressed. If anyone knows any more about it then please educate me, but all the videos I've seen so far is just of a controller.

@zequex How do you figure it is going to be more powerful than the PS3. The CPU will definitely be less powerful than the PS3's as it is essentially going to be identical to the one in the Xbox 360's a multicore powerpc. Even if it winds up being 4 cores instead of the 3 core Xbox360 CPU it will still fall far short of Cell's Floating Point power. The GPU is also confirmed to be only a slightly new variant of the one in the Xbox360 being based on ATI architecture from at least 3 generations ago which will be either on Par with or only slightly better than the PS3's. Nintendo has admited to only trying to catch the power of the MS and Sony consoles with all indications being slightly more powerful than the Xbox with a much weaker CPU and slightly faster GPU than PS3 being a tie at best for Nintendo and that is being very generous. Don't get me wrong I love Nintendo owning every system because i never miss a Zelda game, but I'm seriously worried this DS disguised as a controller will add serious cost to the system making it far more expensive to the similarly powered 360 and PS3 at launch, and when MS releases their new system in 2013-14 and Sony in 2014-15 Nintendo will be the one with the massively underpowered console again. I really hope they release a version of this console without DS controller cause I don't see the system being worth more than $150 at launch to many buyers, especially me.

can't wait to have one of these!

@gamepunk86 : You seriously just think you ''burned'' me by not putting an ''@ part''? Please and I say again..if you are going to insult me come up with something creative....

haha moviequest and that other guy who mentioned me. i purposely didn't put the @ part so it wouldn't go to your inbox and you STILL caught it!!! after what like a month? jeez really get a life

@moviequest14: I agree witht the FPS thing, after Metroid Prime 3 (not technically an fps, but it is first-person and you shoot a lot) the Conduit, COD on the Wii, playing them on other consoles felt strangley awkard with most FPS's ( halo being an exception). just know that your are not alone in the wii FPS players, but is are WE the only ones? or are you an illusion 0_O

@HonorOfGod : ikr? I want to see it used for WAY more games than the gamecube controller was...imo the wii never reached its full potential with fps titles (even though the wiimote made fps's better than they had ever been before)..I am hoping that the wii-u will have more fps's with the use of the wiimote (double analogs for fps's still feels clunky to me).

It better support Wii motes for future Zelda games. I want to be able to use my nice Gold Zelda Wii control with it!

I would be really disappointed if they weren't able to do more than one tablet per controller but even if they don't the system looks to be pretty awesome. More powerful than PS3 and (probably) cheaper or at least comparable. I'm guessing around $200 - $250. Probably it's the tablet that costs the most to manufacture.

At least the new console will follow with a slew of new IPs and the much needed action titles such as Batman: Arkham City (and some others I can't seem to remember right now) with more to be announced. Focusing on the more family orientated genres will slap you with a big black rubber d*ldo sooner or later. Increase your target market to the slightly more violent at heart genre lovers that overwhelm the globe. Otherwise, the new console really does have some excellent game changing aspects about it that will surely receive a wealth of new consumers. Good luck Mr Nintendo:)

I'm not sure if this console is going to be really worth it. Can't wait to know the real details. From what I see, I don't really like the controller.

@kinglink13 : I agree..just to show here is mine.. What I hope for e3: AT LEAST 10 full games ready for announcement and launch. AT LEAST 10 more games announced for later release (and by ''games'' I mean titles that actually build up excitement...not party games-wiiu) A FULL LIST of the major new features of wii-u. A peak at the interface and a demo of what the e-shop,dlc,online,and other features will be like. A DEFINITE release date AND price (I am hoping around $300-$350)

@jinzo9988 : Donkey Kong Country Returns,Metroid Corruption,Metroid Prime,Kirby wii,Kirby's epic yarn,Twilight princess,New Super Mario Brothers wii,Super Mario Galaxy,Super Mario Galaxy 2,Super Smah Bros.,Mario Kart,Paper Mario,Skyward Sword ,Mario Strikers,Super Mario All Stars,Mario Sports Mix,Mario Super Sluggers,Warioland Shake it,Warioware...you are a funny..you know that?

So the Wii U "final form" is at E3 2012. Could be another late August launch for Nintendo. Hopefully Nintendo will have learned from the 3DS launch. $325.99 is the magic Number. No $250.00 launch price this time.

What I hope for E3 2012 Tons of new things added to the Wii U Tons of First and Third party games announced for Wii U Lots of new information about the console itself Lots of new info about the online Good price

Nintendo's going to have to hit launch strong and follow up strong. I've been massively disappointed with the N64, NGC and the Wii. I'll be damned if I buy another Nintendo console unless they genuinely impress me and have the third party support to carry it. Nintendo games are great but one or two a year(discounting Wii Sports, Wii Music and all this other garbage they put out) simply isn't worth the price of admission when the other 95% of the Wii library is filled with shovelware and dumbed down versions or total offshoots of the real games on the other consoles. They've insisted on staying a generation behind their competition and it's not fun to watch. The 64 was still cartridge based while the PS1 was CD. NGC CDs were like regular CDs while the PS2 were DVDs. The Wii's graphical output and control scheme is far inferior to the PS3 and the 360. Get your act together and you might win some of your fans back.

Give us a good selection of games and we will buy. As to casual gamers, I'm not sure pushing in the same direction as the Wii is going to spark big sales. They'll need to change focus to get the casuals on board this new system.

I also want to note that we don't even know if many-or any of those videos at e3 2011 were actually wii-u videos (Nintendo later admitted to using ps3/360 segments for several of the videos which I find unacceptable imo) so we have no idea what the true version of an actual wii-u game will actually look like..I expect this e3 that Nintendo should have an entire game (3rd party preferably) up-for-demo to showcase the raw power of wii-u.

Thats nice, Who knows what the Wii U will finally become, Its potential is Huge and one things for sure, their getting Mainstream 3rd Party support back with this and 3DS. Who knows, the Hardware might also increase considering Sony and Microsoft are planning to unviel a new console 2-4 years from now.

Man, I just hope their 2012 E3 press event is better than 2011's. I really hope they have some real GAMES to show. and I really, REALLY hope they reconsider the amount of Wii U touch controllers that can be used per system. At least 2 at a time per console would be MUCH appreciated. Because asymmetric multiplayer seems like a cheap cover-up for the fact that they're having a hard time streaming to more than one touchpad on a console. I hope I'm wrong.

@yoyou225 (cont'd) And Wii U isn't alone. Microsoft is expected to announce and/or release the next xbox in 2013, which is a year later than the wii u at most. PS4 will follow suit of course, sony won't want to miss out on the clamor for a new generation. Because there will be. Everyone who's owned a current console for more than a year would be excited for a new batch of shiny new technology that looks better and plays slightly different. That's why I'm not afraid...because all in all, the vibe i'm getting is that we as a gaming community as a whole are ready for a new generation, and Wii U is simply the one to start it off. You must remember it's not simply another HD console. I expect it to hold it's own against the next gen from MS and Sony, even if it's not totally up to par graphically. Also, the controller is something we've never seen before for a home console, and will definitely change gameplay from classic controllers, kinect, move, and wii. It's new, it's different, and it's next generation. All nintendo needs to do is bring it out with some strong 1st & 3rd party launch titles and this thing will fly off shelves.

@yoyou225 i hear your concern my friend, but i'm not that worried about it. Why, you ask? Because Nintendo isn't simply throwing a new HD console into the mix at a random point in the current generation. This generation has been around roughly 6 years now, and obviously many people at this point own one of the 3 current consoles. New gamers are still coming into the mix, buying a console for the first time or buying another of the 3 consoles if they already have one of the others, that's why Microsoft, Sony & Nintendo are still making sales with their consoles, thats why they still release new versions of them and new holiday bundles. So, you are saying, why would someone who just bought a new Xbox 360 bundle this year for christmas for the first time, buy a Wii U next year or the year after? Well, perhaps that customer won't right away. Maybe it'll take a year or two after the launch. But customers like me who've had a 360 since launch and a Wii since the year after it came out, are ready for a new generation.

I think that any gamer can agree that Ocarina of Time is one of, if not the greatest game of all time and remastering it for your handheld console is a good idea, Nintendo proved that with Super Mario 64 DS. But what made SM64 DS really worth it was additions to the game and even if OoT3D had new improvements besides the fake illusion of depth it takes more than one good game that was made originally in 1999 to hold up a whole gaming system and that is the reason why the 3DS has been somewhat of a failure. If they had more than just a few remakes of old titles and a gimmick that is nothing more than a handheld migraine machine maybe the 3DS wouldn't be as much as a nightmare for Nintendo.

But also looks of trailers can be decieving. I just hope that Nintendo grabbed a couple of Big guys outside of their company and put money into making the gaming better on the Wii U.

Ive really slowed down on being a Nintendo Fan every since the Nintendo 64, but still i acknowledge their work of releasing the Gamecude and Later the Wii. Hey like what gamer isn't a Mario or Zelda fan. This new Nintendo Technology is really showing that they are trying to gain their audience back and may i say they did a pretty decent job with this one. I personaly feel that they are making a great effort to be different or better then the others such as how the Xbox 360 Kinect made the wii and ps3 motion packages look horrible with the use of controlling your game without having to have a controller in your hand. Nintendo Good Work!!!

@Wormkid_64 Yeah, it came as a surprise to everyone! :) Well, not -everyone- , because some rumors had been floating around the Interwebs about a touchscreen in a controller... but anyhow... yup!

@Owlynator No I never thought you were slamming the Wii-U,or that you were a graphics junkie.I was just stating my opinions about graphics and whatnot. And yes,some games were ruined because a lot of devs didn't want to put in the extra effort it took to make a Wii version of a game with solid controls. It's likely at least some will do the same with Wii-U.You'll get lots of gimmicky dumb games like "Bongo Billy's Backyard Ball Bash" wherein every single action is controlled by some wild flailing of the limbs. But we're sure to get some good stuff too. Nintendo will show them how a good Wii-U game is made with some first party titles,and hopefully this time 3rd parties will follow suit with quality software. BTW,I don't think anyone was hoping for a tab controller until Nintendo announced that such a thing could exist! :D

@Infinity_Gauntl I cannot read now. Hmmm, lets look at your argument. Yes you did say you love Nintendo, but you made some grevious errors. You ignore the fact that you based your judgement based on the tech demo alone. That is fallible...Also I am aware of the history of why the Playstation 3 had a rough start. In all honesty, I probably know more about gaming than you, due to the sheer fact that you make baseless arguments that are blinded by brand loyalty. I brought the playstation 3 up and the Xbox 360 to prove the point that all companies mess up, which is something you have not acknowledge. You act like if Sony and MS donot mess up and you even make excuses for them. I know they have alot of great first party developers, but what was the point of that? I was speaking of Sony's mistakes, which your trying to cover up. The fact is that I can read, and I am open minded. You, your just another baseless gamer. And btw the Wii imo is not a crap console. Do some research, and look at the Atari Jaguar, or the CDi, and than we can talk about what a real crap console is, cause honestly i doubt you even know what those consoles are.

I'm not afraid of the controller. I'm not afraid of the specs. I'm not afraid of the launch. I'm personally afraid of how the hell this thing is gonna sell past the install base it already has. Honestly, what's going to make people buy a new HD system when they just bought a PS3/Xbox? I'm not talking about the Nintendo fans, I'm talking about the people who support what's good now. Nintendo is seriously stepping to dangerous grounds in terms of reception and sales. But then again, if anyone can make it out of this kind of situation alive and strong, it'd be Nintendo. Good luck guys.

@Matthew-first : While I normally agree that graphics/power are usually overrated..one of the main reasons the wii didn't have as much 3rd party support was because of the lack of power (while there were the exceptions like Call of Duty) many developers didn't want to have to make an extremely scaled back version of 360 and ps3 games..while I don't acknowledge graphics above all else power and 3rd party support do go hand in hand.

First when I seen that I was like WTH? But after watching the trailer i'm quite surprised with possibilites :) But the screen and "controller" is quite big though

The wiiu is awesome because I like to stay fit,but wait... could be a scale be cheaper?Oh I'm an idiot! :D

@smbius Cool! That's awesome! And some of the most most detailed information I've seen/heard of the console. @Wormkid_64 I completely agree with you. I hope you are not taking me wrong about the Wii U, graphics are not that important for me. I was just wondering about them, because Nintendo has been quite silent about their new console and it's been difficult to find any info and news about the Wii U and it's specs. Also, I am a big fan of big N, and I loved the Wii, but the option to play with a normal controller would be awesome. I prefer normal controllers over motion controls. I do like the tablet controller, but it's not something what I had wished for. Some games on the Wii were ruined because of their motion controls, I don't want the same thing to happen with the Wii U.

@smbius : Lucky! Do you have an extra pass bestest,best friend of mine? :P I think that if,in the end,the wii-u does have leser graphics one thing that publishers have learned is that you can still experiment with things (artistic and raw power) that make graphics look even better...there are titles like Goldeneye 007,Red Steel 2,Conduit 2,and Call of Duty titles that are about as close to hd as possible without being hd and ,at first glance,could easily be mistaken for a 360 or ps3 game.The truth of the matter is...the wii-u is pretty damn powerful,so even if the 720 and ps4 are more powerful there is a heavy percentage it will only be slightly more so.

@smbius Man! Lucky you! Next E3,can we temporarily switch brains so I can go disguised as you? @Owlynator Yeah they were some old articles,so they may be hard to find now.But anyway,gaming is about the games,not the graphics.That's why Metroid and Zelda can have one quality title released every few years,while cookie-cutter shooters with detailed gritty graphics need a new release every holiday season.

@Trenchman - The Wii alone was a major gamble. As for the controller, I can confirm that the Wii U will also make use of current Wii Motion+ controllers but there will definitely NOT be any DS or 3DS titles being used on the controller. However, Fils Aime said the possibility of a cross platform version of Smash Bros. could involve the Wii-U and the 3DS.

@Owlynator - I got a chance to play this thing at E3: http://www.lazytechguys.com/featured/nintendo-wii-u-hardware-and-gameplay-concepts-hands-on-video/ - but it's still too early to know what kind of specs it is. Honestly, specs are mostly a means to an end - good games. @Wormkid_64 - I completely agree. Knowing Nintendo, they have always touted that it's more than just making the system about technology alone. At E3, they were able to accomplish the same thing. It was about the experience, not the specs. After playing it myself, I talked to other press and other gamers who've finally gotten a chance to experience it and they said the same thing - experiencing it is totally different from watching a video and so far they look forward to what other new gaming experiences the machine will offer.

The Wii U is kind of a gamble. Graphically it seems to be on par with the PS3 and 360, and they still have almost half of their lifespan left so there is time for it to compete. The only real problem I see is if they can get the support base by selling a lot of consoles or get more popular third party titles, exclusives would be most beneficial, on their console. I think that one will follow the other, so it's mostly a question of which one they can get first. I'm also somewhat questioning the controller, even though I can see some benefits, I can't really think of anything that would really change the way a game would be played. I could see using the second screen to show inventory or a world map which, although useful, isn't going to add to a game enough I think to attract companies to make titles exclusively for the Wii U. I was just hoping that there would be a way to play DS and 3DS titles on it using the controller as the bottom touch-screen, I think it would be a nice perk.

@fanirama : Your lack of actual knowledge about the wii-u is awe-inspiring....First a Battlefield title IS scheduled for the wii-u.Second the one thing we know for sure about the wii-u is it is more powerful than any of the current-gen systems...all of which Bf3,saints row,and just cause ARE playing on..so if at all these might be upgraded for the wii-u.Spend time spending at least 5 minutes learning about the wii-u before bashing it please.

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@fanirama Nintendo's only been in business 100+ years. I'm sure they'll do just fine without BF or MW 3.

The Wii was a piece of joke. A 2001 level console released in 2006 with an imprecise air-mouse and the ad nauseum Marios and Zeldas. If the Wii-U or whatever other moronic name doesn't have specs to cater to hardcore gamers, Nintendo is done. Can it even dream of playing games like BF3, Skyrim, Dark Souls, Gears of War, Saints Row, Just Cause?

If WiiU isn't a smash hit, then Nintendo is going to be screwed.