I understand that people are not amused about the non-option. But on the sunny side; We can set up lan-party's again. I was so hoping for that possibility. It would be nice to have the option to just go out and play on a dedicated server too.
No dedicated servers for Far Cry 3
By
Eddie Makuch, News Editor
Online multiplayer in Ubisoft's action game not using dedicated servers; Ubisoft says, "Of course we are not trying to kill the PC community."
Far Cry 3 will not support dedicated servers, an Ubisoft representative said in the firm's forums. According to the community manager, the decision is in the best interest of gamers and was made after careful consideration.
"The online experience does not support dedicated servers," the company said. "Of course we are not trying to kill the PC community. We have simply decided on a different way of handling multiplayer. We weighed the different options against each other to see what worked best, and what we came up with worked very well even without [dedicated servers]."
Additionally, the Ubisoft representative said the decision to exclude dedicated servers for Far Cry 3 was not made over any concerns of PC piracy.
Far Cry 3 will cast players as Jason Brody, a man stranded on a strange tropical island similar to the setting of the first Far Cry. Gamers will head out into this "savage paradise" and "slash, sneak, and shoot" to survive in a world that has "lost all sense of morality."
The game was originally targeted to launch in September, but was delayed to December 4 over the summer. For more on Far Cry 3, check out GameSpot's previous coverage.
By
Eddie Makuch, News Editor
Eddie Makuch (Mack-ooh) is a News Editor at GameSpot. He works out of the company's Boston office in Somerville, Mass., and loves extra chunky peanut butter.
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So glad it wasn't in stock. Looks like black ops 2 for me. UBI likes to crap on the PC gamer it seems. Remember how they killed the original Farcry by allowing 1 person in the community to change all the weapon classes to how he deemed fit in an official multiplayer game patch, despite the fact the community as a whole was against it?
Here we go again, remember Modern Warfare 2 guys?
Ubisoft seems incapable of learning from other company's mistakes. Like that stupid always online DRM crap. Players hate that kind of drm, and EA has tried similar tactics and failed, but you just have to try it yourself don't you UBI?
I thought during that MW2 incident the players has already shown that we need dedicated server, but I don't know if Ubisoft is blind or something, I don't care anymore. Since that always online DRM crap I never bought any of their games anyway, now this news just reaffirmed that.
Game company: We're gonna put in DRM that is invasive and annoying.
Customer: Okay, I'm not gonna buy your game.
Game company: Sales were low, I guess we shouldn't focus on PC gaming.
The people who steal games are literally murdering this business. Assuming there won't be some major invention that revolutionizes gaming, and everything will stay similar to how it is now, I doubt in ten years PCs will get any games from major devs that aren't just lazy ports.
1 Like @downloadthefile piracy isn't as big a deal as publishers make it out to be. a lot of it is dead weight loss. most pirates wouldn't buy your game to begin with.
1 Like Great news. does every game need a damn multi-player? Geez, makers should concentrate on making good games not any piece of crap with a multi-player.
4 Like Oh please, Ubisoft is well known for hating PC gaming. Remember the whole "damn PC gamers are all pirates!" release? Plus how all their ports are buggy slop released months later.
2 Like ?"the decision is in the best interest of gamers" No, no it's not. Not that interested in FC3 anyway. The pole dancing woman transforming into a pole dancing man had already put me off.
Didn't the industry learn from the backlash of modern warfare 2 when they pulled this stunt as well. I can't stand ubisoft or crysis but it's still not good to see fps games launch with no dedicated servers and then have the creators sit there and tell us how it's better this way.
Now they just lost one potential buyer. Why is the reason not to have dedicated servers.
I have to say, i loose a little bit more for ubisoft with every release they make.
3 Like Well, this doesn't effect me, since I wouldn't get Far Cry 3 for multiplayer. What's a dedicated server, anyway?
Their DRM is the most egregious. I understand DRM because piraters are relentless and steal even from the good guys (CD Projekt). Still, the mandatory constant online connection is enraging. There needs to be a middle ground. Like games older than X number of years should have no DRM, and even an initial connection to start-up would be fine compared to the constant connection. None of it's great though.
@downloadthefile Just don't buy games which feature restrictive DRM. I've stopped and I'm not missing a great deal, especially when there are other games I can spend my money on and enjoy.
@downloadthefile All you have to do is be online during the one-time activation. After that you can go offline and play as much as you want with no connection required.
9 Like @downloadthefile The problem with DRM is that pirates always hack it, so all it ends up being is a hassle for paying customers.
3 Like "...not trying to kill the PC community." adds DRM claiming to protect from piracy - bonus AC soundtrack is directly ripped from PirateBay.
9 Like Ubisoft is full of shit, as usual. Every single FPS that has not supported dedicated servers is trash on PC.
2 Like ummm... did i miss something... since when do games with dedicated server capabilities stop people from p2p... i like dedicated servers purely for the ability to see the amount of servers and players currently going... match making doesn't allow for this; i stopped playing cod becuase of matchmaking servers, i'de spend 10-15 minutes waiting for a game to connect (i do have good connection) and still end up joining a host where only 3 people have connection in the green and the rest is red... as far as i know, the old games that had dedicated servers allowed people in their homes to create their own dedi-server or a local internet server (basically p2p), or a LAN server... to me there's not one, or the other... have it all available, and allow people to make their own, dediservers if they want... the only reason a company these days don't like dedi-servers is if they want to jump on the financial band waggon of dlc updates for multiplayer...
far cry's never been a bout multiplayer to me...
and while im nit picking... "Additionally, the Ubisoft representative said the decision to exclude dedicated servers for Far Cry 3 was not made over any concerns of PC piracy." .. how bout some other reasons why... why not let the community know, or do you just don't want us to hate you more because of the stupid reasoning?
5 Like multiplayer looks like another cod clone.. and by that i mean perks killstreaks and loadouts nothing new anyways just looks bad. kinda sucks cuz fc games always have good map editors
5 Like 2 things.
1. Who was going to play this game for the multiplayer.
2. Ubisoft HATES pc gamers, that is a face :D
5 Like Is anyone seriously buying this for the Multiplayer anyway? The campaign looks exciting enough as it is!
@biggest_loser The vast majority of FC fans that enjoyed FC2 were getting FC3 for the multiplayer. Fc2's multiplayer is my most favorite online shooter experience. Everyday for 6hrs or more clans from past shooters such as cod4 were playing FC2 multiplayer, and gah damn It was fun as hell joining them. We had so many excellent map creators. An endless amount of absolutely fantastic maps and there were good weapons, mechanics, hit detection, etc. Some of the best players you find in the leaderboards in recent shooters are FC2 players. I know.
@biggest_loser I'm getting the game mostly for the single player, but I'm also getting another 2 copies for two friends so we can play the co-op. The PVP doesn't interest us at all, even though we'll surely try it eventually. Maybe.
1 Like As long as you can host either as a listen or dedicated server over LAN i'll be happy as larry and the map editor makes a return. I am more worried about this being either a terrible port or a terrible SP because Ubisoft are making it more about graphics than story, this game could do much better than Far Cry 2
In this area of increasingly fast home Internet connections, I see less need for dedicated servers. It may have mattered when the fastest connections players used were 768 Kbps downstream, but with many gamers using connections that have Mbps upload speeds, I don't see as much need.
Plus, as many people have pointed out, using P2P or player-hosted servers allows the multiplayer to continue long past the point by which most companies would have pulled the plug on their dedicated servers.
3 Like @theKSMM a dedicated server offer more than a reliable connexion. The community that form behind them and the customization (with mod for example) make every games special.
Also, your last point is false, if a company decided to kill the master server, the whole game is done with P2P. Tell me how many games from the original xbox you can still play online. I can still play Red Faction 1 online, Counter Strike, Jedi Knight 2, Freelancer (even if MS killed the master server, a community master server was launched shortly after)....
2 Like I'm missing the point. Dedicated servers are only good as long as they have adequate maintenance staff. When I play online I usually host or run through a friend's. The only positive to a dedicated server is better ping, and that still varies wildly depending on who/where you are.
I'm actually glad they're allowing P2P servers because that means a few years down the road when my friends and I want to strike up a co-op playthrough we will still be able to since the game isn't dependent on dedicated servers.
1 Like " of course we are not trying to kill the pc community" thats a pretty sarcasm right there!
8 Like Well I had no intentions of playing this game in multiplayer to be honest, only interested in SP which looks great. If you want to play multiplayer fps, there are way better options out there then far cry 3.
The mp in this game is probably there only because it was mentionned in the contract that the dev had to make an mp mode. No advertisement has been made for the mp, all the videos they gave us was singleplayer. The big thing about this game is the single player, not the mp with it's tdm mode and other trivial BS.
@jack00 @Morbissus MP made FC2 great. Map editor was amazing. That's why there is a MP for FC3.
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