I always support IPs that are in a genre I'm interested in and are quality games. New IPs are fine by me.
Dontnod creative director Jean-Maxime Moris responds to EA comment, claims large PS3, Xbox 360 install base a reason to launch new franchises now.
Now, at what is believed to be the tail-end of an already protracted console cycle, is the right time to release new franchises. That's according to to Remember Me developer Dontnod creative director Jean-Maxime Moris.
Responding to a comment from EA Labels boss Frank Gibeau about how holding off until next-generation consoles arrive to launch new IP may be advantageous, Moris partially agreed with Gibeau, but offered a different view in an interview with VG247.
“Those guys think that people are basically saving up money for next-gen hardware, and that by having your game, your new IP launch at the beginning of that new cycle, that it’s going to be easier to integrate into that cycle. That’s true,” Moris said.
“But the install base of the PS3 and the Xbox 360 has never been so big, and if you have something that’s new enough, that’s fresh enough, and interesting enough, you’ve never been able to sell it to as many people as now," he added. "So it’s definitely the right time for us to be bringing Remember Me to the market.”
A third-person game due out in May 2013 for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC, Remember Me has players taking on the role of Nilin, an "elite memory hunter." According to publisher Capcom, Nilin not only is a physical threat, but also boasts a special ability that allows her to break into people's minds where she can steal or change memories.
Capcom is planning Remember Me as a "major franchise."
Unfortunately it all comes down to numbers for publishers. Why fund a new idea when you can milk existing hits by forcing those developers to make sequels? All we can do as consumers is to wander off the beaten path once in a while and support stand-alone games with our wallets.
I managed to get Sleeping Dogs for $30 a week after it launched due to some easily accessible promos. The game got fine reviews across the board and I ended up enjoying it a lot. It's one of those rare games these days where I bothered to take the time to finish.
Needing new IP's was never a big issue for this generation. Bioware introduced both Dragon Age and Mass Effect, Bethesda and Square Enix brought back Fallout and Deus Ex respectively. Even the vaunted franchises such as GoW and CoD got started as legitimate hits this generation and it's fine to give us sequels for them. But consumers are the ones who need to play some of these other games before publishers are willing to produce them.
Moris is right. The install base for current-gen is HUGE right now. Now really is the point in time to get a rabid fanbase, especially because once the next-gen launches, it'll take some time to build up steam and sell systems. A lot of people won't even jump on board until years later, when the price drops happen.
I ALWAYS wait for the price drops. You can often get a smaller console with more features at a lower price point with a nice game included as a bundle. I'm holding onto my PS3 and 360 as long as possible. I hope they don't release new stuff until 2015. That's the right year for it, numerically. It's a very marketable number.
When Uncharted: Drake's Fortune was released, I thought for sure that it would go nowhere simply because it was a PlayStation 3 exclusive at a time when the PS3 installed base wasn't very big.
A few years, a few awards, and a couple sequels later, people were going back to buy the original game in order to get the complete story arc or a few more hours of gameplay with Nathan Drake.Of course, there's probably a big advantage to doing it God of War-style and releasing the game to a huge base (e.g. PS2) and then putting out a sequel for the new system (PS3) and taking your well-established audience with you.
when i come to think of it, good games, regardless of their generation, are simply good games and attract a lot of interest... their sequels attract even more people within the next generation... killzone, red dead, gow series, etc are the first ones to pop up in my head... :)
Remember Me reminds me of the movie Push (2009) and I really liked that movie. I hope this game will turn out good.
I don't know how EA thinks, but when looking at some of their best selling titles, I don't associate them with "something that?s new enough, that?s fresh enough, and interesting enough". Maybe that's why they're holding off until the new gen of consoles is coming, but that's just my opinion.
He's right. We're regularly being served seconds in the same decade-old meals and the technology is making design easier by the day. Just look at how many dumpy indy games show up in the online markets.
The right resources and talent could make a huge splash right now. Me I'm hoping Banner Saga works out.
Sleeping Dogs had had good reviews but terrible sales. Gamers say they want new franchises and a lot probably do, but in the end it's the same old COD shit that sells.
Major franchise? Well, I can see this already. I can't wait until Remember Me 2 is released on next-gens, and everyone will instantly forget about the first and skip it. Only because it's a loner on our current generation systems. Lovely.
My question is, when isn't it the right time for a new IP? New ideas and concepts should always be welcomed. Publishers are whinning because sales are down, and that's in part due to the fact that gamers are tired of playing the same old same old.
@Toysoldier34 Problem isn't gen, but rather incapable publishers, that can't produce decent games.
@Kyrylo Yes the gen itself isn't the cause, just that it is a much bigger issue in the time period.
The ability to release an unfinished game and fix it over time with patches has really let developers get away with a lot. In the last gen if you release a broken PS2 game it will remain a broken PS2 game that won't sell. They need to be held to a higher standard to prevent the release of unfinished games.
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Capcom can't even take care of their own IP, and crap on the new IP they do create (Dragon's Dogma sells a million copies and that didn't meet expectations), so why should we believe them now?
@Thanatos2k wait till they crap their pants with 2 mil. of RE sold, since they expecting 7 mil.
@Kyrylo High expectations - it's what renders pretty good games into crap and millions of sales into financial disappointments, because you/the company expected more. It's dangerous to have high expectations, it messes with your perceptions and makes you less able to appreciate the good things about something.
Black and Final Fantasy XII released towards the end of their respective console cycles, and both of those were fantastic games.The games will sell well, and may even be praised, but consumers will still forget it quickly for new hardware.
@Mecamatt I still have my cousin's copy of Black for xbox. I only played it for the 1st time during this generation and beat ONLY the first 2 missions but then I stopped cuz of the graphics killing my eyes :( Should I give Black another shot???
Meh, Capcom doesn't have much. No new fighting games shown. I was hoping for a Maximo for the next gen.
I would argue that a New console is the best time to release a new IP. There are often very feww games around so the market is less saturated and new console buyers are often looking for something new and orginal to see what the new hardware can do and alos what trend the generation of games. Right no you have a large user base but new IPs get overshadowend by all of the exsiting IPs.
@bsnimunf Interesting you haven't brought up the fact next-generation starts this year with the Wii-U. not that i blame you for it.
@sidewinder_na @bsnimunf To me (and I fully intend to buy a Wii U) the Wii U is next gen in time-frame only.... there is not a significant enough jump in performance to see it as a true "next gen" console. Nintendo games in HD is enough to make me want one, though I know there will be more to it than that. I agree with the original point though, new gen is a good time for new IPs because people who have bought the new hardware are desperate for anything to play on it.... that's why we're seeing all these extra sequels right now - to see out this generation of hardware.
I know the game has been out for more than a year, but I just finished Shadows of the Damned. What a refreshing game that was! It was funny, charming, imaginative, and kept me guessing what was happening next.
Well the nostalgia of old loved IPs will always be grounds for milking out the players , but then again, life does make circles.
He's right, I don't understand this developer mentality that as soon as the the player-base gets too big, it's time to dump the system and start all over. Lots of people will still continue to use their 360 and PS3 for the next couple of years.
@Breyant I agree, I won't be picking up a new system for a while, I learned from my mistakes in the past with system problems on both my PS3 and Xbox, both had to be sent back because of hardware issues, not to mention in this economy I am definitely gonna wait for a price drop cause bills come before gaming.
There is always a right time to introduce new IPs imo. Bringing new ideas to the market and expanding it instead of recycling old concepts is good in my book. We have come to a point where we even need to have new IPs, challenge each other's creativity and whatnot, and I say this to the devs; doing the same things or releasing the same games with a different name isn't gonna cut it anymore, at least not for long. Especially not with the next gen.
God Of War came out near the end of the ps2's spotlight and it continued qiute fine onto ps3 so he is right now is a good time
new IPs are fine, as long as they're not homogenized and ended up being just CoD or Gears of War with different names. I hope Capcom won't get any bright ideas and try to turn Remember Me into an Assassin's Creed clone.
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