Star Wars Galaxies end-game detailed

@CarlitosWay lol, Also, I am beyond sad that you made fun of my name. Im so depressed right now, I'm going to go take a bunch of aspirin and slit my wrist and bleed out in my bathroom because CariltosWay made fun of my name...my life is RUIIIINED.....*In Darth Vader Voice* "NoooooooOOooOoOoOoOoooooO OooooOOOoooOooOooOooooOOooooOooooooooooO OooooOoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooOOOOOoooh!" and yeah, Palpatine was only the Emperor.....of The Sith.

@Philly1uper Personally i dont give a crap. I dont have to even prove myself anymore. The links speak for themselves. Look it up on any database that pertains to Star Wars. The only KNOWN Sith character during the orignal Trilogy, and even its timeline, was Vader. Not even Palpatine was considered one. He was just the emperor.

@CarlitosWay Obviously you care enough about one word to go back and fourth with someone about it lol.

@Philly1uper Original in what sense? That you took to UNoriginal concepts and put them together? Yea, very original bro. Who cares if the WORD was used. Look at the scripts and the manuscripts for the movies and the books, respectfully. You wont find ANY explanation as to WHAT the sith are. And my point still stands. Why you thumb down true points is beyond me. But have fun.

@CarlitosWay Haha, so the end of my user name makes me a troll? atleast my user name is original and atleast I'm smart enough to know the word Sith was used long before the Prequels for Star Wars came out.

@__Silent_Jay_ That is exactly what i am saying. Unfortunately, my words are being twisted. Star Wars was NEVER about the Sith, but rather, Vader's redemption. The concept of the Sith was never explained till after. I also made the same point that Jedi (trained that is) shouldnt be around during SWG, and this was a point that was argued MANY times over on the forums of the game, and in game as well. But apparently, all people see on this site is links, pictures and display names. Apparently, because my name isnt Star Wars related, i get an automatic thumbs down. God forbid anyone would actually READ what people are linking to.

@Philly1UPer With a stupid name that ends in "1UPER" i think we ALL know who the troll is. This argument/discussion has died already. We agreed to disagree, even tho many people have already agreed with what i am saying. Not only that, just because im not rocking a Star Wars avatar, doesnt mean im a Trek fan. Point 1: If you would've bothered to read my original post, i was discussing how GREAT THIS GAME WAS. Point 2: I am following and playing COUNTLESS SW games on my profile, and not a SINGLE Trek game. And finally Point 3: I am discussing FACTS about SW, posting links to SW related articles. Would a Trek fan do that? Where ever you popped out of, go back to it.

@CarlitosWay Im just going to go out of my way and just say your a Trekkie that hates Star Wars and your just trolling.

I never played this game, which I do regret. I'm amazed how long it did last.

I thought this game died a long, long time ago... PS yeah I know awful, still couldnt resist, I had to say it :P

@AnakinSW (and anybody else who doesn't get it) - All Carlitosway is saying is that at that point in the SW timeline, the only active Sith were Vader and Palpatine, and that (until the EU really kicked off) Sith was just this word describing something that Vader was apparently a Dark Lord of, and were some kind of evil Force users. The term didn't really get any sort of background until Dark Horse's Tales of the Jedi comics, which eventually led to the Rule of Two, which meant that there were only two Sith at any given time: a master and apprentice. Since SWG came out *after* the prequels started, the whole "Rule of Two" thing was in place, and therefore there would be no Sith, other than Vader and Palpatine, in the game. It's also why it was next to impossible to become a Jedi in the game, at first, because there were supposed to be no surviving Jedi either. (Luke signified the "Return of the Jedi.") So, got it?

I will miss this game. But i have many good memories from the time i have spent playing. But i find this a interesting way to let the players decide how it plays out. But i am cinda disapointed that thay dident put in on a F2P thing.

Last chance to see a slider to adjust your gullet size!

@CarlitosWay Well I'm not gonna beat a dead horse here... but when the word is used in the script and the book, yes it was used in the actual novel written for A New Hope by Lucas/Foster, then the public was fully aware of the word. I knew about the word long before the prequels and that's all I'm gonna say on the subject. You can disagree if you like, it's pointless to debate both opinions.

@AnakinSW You are twisting what i am saying. If we spoke back in 1990, and you asked me this same question, the answer would be obvious. Back then, the concept of the Sith was only known to those who knew the script description. Now, that doesnt mean it doesnt exist. This you are correct on. But my whole point is that aside from the fact that the public had no knowledge of the Sith. That was first brought to light AFTER the original trilogy. There were NO Sith (other than Vader and Palpatine) during the original series timeline. The only usage of even the word was in the script. And like i said in my other post, as far as OTHER Sith existing, it was technically not possible.

@CarlitosWay So what you're saying is that since the word Sith didn't appear in the actual film, then it didn't exist back then? Are you saying that the film is more factual than the larger and more broad scope of the script upon which it's based? Vader has always been known as the (at the time) current Dark Lord of the Sith from way back during those films and the books. I'm not sure why you tend to think the term Sith was never used until the prequels...

@Decessus My argument is that DarthVeng should have done some reading into the game before buying it and criticizing it. If he would have gone to the site, he would see that there are no "no Sith". What i also imply is that Star Wars was NEVER about the Sith. It shows in its original trilogy. That was aimed at his "No Sith = No Star Wars" comment. My final comment about the Sith in this timeline goes back to the Rule of Two, set down by Darth Bane. There were only supposed to be two lords of the Sith, hence why Sidious never called any of his "Emperor Hands" Sith, nor gave them Sith or Jedi training. The fact that there are Jedi in the game is contradictory to the timeline, but it has been accepted as is.

@CarlitosWay I'm not sure I understand what argument you are trying to make. Are you saying that SWG should not have Sith in it because the Sith were never mentioned in episodes IV, V, and VI?

What a wasted opportunity :(

This game would have been a more awesome sandbox had they set it in a part of the timeline that was more open to interpretation and exploration like the Old Republic era of SWTOR. Unfortunately it was ruined from the start by setting it in the timeline of the original movies. The best thing they could hve done would have been to set it after RotJ and use it to continue the storyline that way, that would have been very cool. Instead they went for cashing in on the movies and it was terrible, the game's storyline was awful. Although I played SWG for years when it came out because I enjoyed the Star Wars setting and the gameplay and character mechanics, I thought the timeline setting was terrible and they continued to mutilate it with things like the Rage of the Wookies expansion. I could handle the combat upgrade, it actually streamlined the combat and removed some of the buggy, unbalanced aspects of the combat. But when the NGE hit, that was the poisonous stab that killed the game. Anyone remember one of the SWG devs, Hayden Blackman and how he ranted once blaming the failure of the NGE on the SWG players for not accepting it? Good times :P

@CarlitosWay : Whats the deal with your rant? All I said is you couldn't be a real Sith in Galaxies, so I didn't want to play it and didnt enjoy the 4 days I did try of it That's it, that's all I said. Why the long drawn out dramatic post of yours? Btw, I have read over 100 Star War novels/books and own nearly all of the comics. I own nearly every video game of Star Wars as well. I have an entire room filled with nothing but Star Wars. I don't say that to brag, but, sorry to burst your bubble, but I know my Star Wars "lore". Sith exist, get over yourself.

@rpvarela Your assessment is almost 100% correct. There were various additions to the game that decreased the value of it little by little, but hte NGE was the one addition that deterred everyone from the game. If you wiki the game, you will see the explanation there.

nice idea.

@ Carlitos Way It's very interesting what you wrote, I had no idea about the sith being explored more in episode 1. I guess some people see what they want to see in each movie or hear like they want to hear lol.

I was there when it began, many years ago. I was there when the world changed for the worse (many times), and had to depart. It is unfortunate that I won't be there for the end, but I wish the game farewell.

Seems like a pretty neat idea. Have fun guys!

@anakinsw I suggest before you get the knives or indeed sabres out on someone you should have clearly read the post and understood. CarlitosWay makes a definate point, well and accurate. You'd do well to reconsider your anger.

SWG is a perfect lesson to those who make MMOs. When you think you'll gain more subscribers by changing the core game years after it's been released, and all your current subscribers complain and cancel their accounts, CHANGE THE GAME BACK. SWG didn't gain more subscribers to balance out the loss of old ones. I wish I could check out the end stuff but my character was deleted when they merged servers.

I stopped playing before Jump to Lightspeed. The whole old man and the force village killed that game for me. Then I started playing Guild Wars and never looked back.

@AnakinSW If you dont believe me buddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sith#Name_and_film_use

@anakinsw My poor friend. Scripts are one thing. LINES are another. Look again at your script. While it was in the DESCRIPTION of the scene, the Sith were never MENTIONED. Sure Lucas had the idea in his head, but it was never brought to the attention of the audiences. I searched all 3 original trilogy scripts (thanks to your link) and Sith is only mentioned in script 8 times in total. NEVER ONCE in the lines, only as description of Darth Vader. Not even Palpatine was described as a Sith lord, he was the Emperor and thats it. Like i said, nobody who watched the movies back in the 70s-80s knew what the Sith were. The premise of SWG was based off of that. And its pathetic i get thumbs down for stating facts about the game, and my opinion on its end.

I actually think this is kind of cool.

Wow, that's an awesome way to end this MMO. Although it is decently sad that they're ending it... :(

This is the best MMO granted that there is nothing you cannot do in this game.

The Darkside has already won and the NGE killed it.

if anyones interested, SWGEMU is trying to bring back SWG. swgemu.com theyve been working on it since 2006... its all volunteers though

oh man to be honest, i really prefer pre NGE-SWG over SW:TOR or any mmorpg its just so unique. you can do anything and be anything you want. and you dont have to engage in combat to become better. such an amazing game until the patches came out

Rebellian wage thier battle to destroy, the evil FORCEs of Galactic Empire. 8)

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I guess it's a nice send-off, but SWG ended for me when they introduced the NGE patch so many years ago. It's been dead to me since then. RIP "original SWG" - you were a diamond in the rough that was destroyed before it could be polished.

I thought it was up to George Lucas to make that kind of decision. Probably best that he doesn't. It would only be a disappointment and you'd all feel like the time and money you'd invested in the game had been wasted. All your good memories of the game would somehow feel dirty and violated.

Gotta love the Star Wars community :)

Could be good if blizzard ended wow like this way, and i could Became free from wow :)

@CarlitosWay I suggest you look at the script for A New Hope and you'll certainly see the word Sith used in there up to 5 times. I'm pretty sure the term was well known back during the original trilogy. Get your facts straight. YOU have no obvious knowledge of the lore... I'll even provide a link for ya. Here ya go - http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Star-Wars-A-New-Hope.html

I have never played that game, but I've heard stories about it. How it was great at first, then a patch (or "the patch") came and quality decreased. Based solely on that, I'd say that's what separates a good company from a bad one. They tried, it didn't work quite as they had intended, and now they are ready to go, giving the players one final moment of joy. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

We already know how it ends; Smedley lost.

@DarthVeng_basic Its obvious from this post and others you have posted that you have NO concept of Star Wars lore. From the previous trilogy, there was no such thing as the word "Sith". It was NEVER uttered. The introduction of the "Sith" didnt appear till episode 1. This game was based off of the original trilogy, 4-6. Specifically, it based itself right after the destruction of the 1st Death Star. So no, there were no Sith. Technically speaking, there weren't supposed to be any trained force users (and there wasnt any for the first few months). Only later did they add the unlockable Jedi. Like i said before in other posts, read a bit before jumping to ideas. I bet if you spent 5 mins actually looking at material for this game BEFORE buying it, you would've learned something about it. As an old player, its always sad to see news of this game shutting down. When i got the email notification from SOE, i just felt like they are beating a dead horse. While its cool to "declare a victor", curious as to what they are going to do in the last moments of the game. The April Fools pranks were ALWAYS epic, especially the Krayt Dragons in the shuttleports.

omg wow, that's a really unique way to end a MMO.

YAY! I guess...?

Huh, that's the way to do it, instead of just turning it all off. Maybe the Emipre will actually win!