@Gelugon_baat lol, the fool with mods in his pocket thinks his opinion has weight. This guy is french and the legal age of sex in France is 14. you guys are idiots.
19-year old French StarCraft II player Ilyes “Stephano” Satouri suspended without pay for the month of October for recent comments made during a livestream.
French StarCraft II superstar Ilyes “Stephano” Satouri, who recently signed a new deal with the prominent Evil Geniuses organization one month ago, has been suspended by his team without pay for the month of October. The action, taken after Stephano's comments were broadcast live online, mean he will now miss DreamHack Bucharest and The GD Invitational.
Earlier this week during a live stream on TwitchTV by fellow Starcraft II player and friend Team Dignitas' Samayan "BlinG" Kay, Stephano sent a private message over Battle.net regarding sex with a minor. “Sam, I abused a child yesterday”, Stephano said to Bling in a screenshot grabbed during the stream. “14 yo,” Stephano continued, after a response of “wtf” by Bling. “I might only be interested in milfs and kids now.”
Stephano apologized on Twitter later that day saying it was just a “private joke, nothing serious”. Some fans did not feel his apology was satisfactory, and began to email Evil Geniuses sponsors about his actions, including Intel, Monster Energy, and Steel Series. Following this, Stephano tweeted that it was “people's stupidity” that caused him to regret going professional with StarCraft, and that in turn caused him to play poorly. Evil Geniuses has issued its official response, addressing not only Stephano but the comments that he made.
“Today, Evil Geniuses announces that French Zerg player Ilyes “Stephano” Satouri has been suspended without pay for the remainder of October, following his recent inappropriate comments. We sincerely apologize to the respective organizers of these tournaments for any inconvenience the last-minute cancellations may cause”. the statement reads. “That apology, however, obviously comes as secondary to a much more significant and direly-needed apology for Stephano’s inexcusable comments themselves. An apology in his own words can be found at the bottom of this post, but additionally, everyone at Evil Geniuses – including management, players, and staff – would like to sincerely apologize for these comments. They do not reflect our company’s sense of morality, behavior and propriety, and they will not be tolerated.”
Stephano has also issued his own apology. “I want to very sincerely apologize to all of my fans, my teammates and management at EG, all of EG’s sponsors, and the rest of the community for my comments last week. They were insensitive, inappropriate, way over the line, and are deserving of the serious ramifications I have received from my team. I accept responsibility for my mistake, and I will be more careful in the future.”
Evil Geniuses went on to say that although Stephano has been penalized and suspended for October, the matter is not closed within the organization and more ramifications may be dealt out. Although suspended in October, another recent tweet by Stephano suggests he will be heading to Korea in the meantime, with many speculating he will play in next season's GSL Code S.
In June, Stephano was arrested at the Silver nightclub in Jönköping, Sweden, following his attendance at DreamHack Summer.
Lets get this straight, abuse is the improper usage or treatment for a bad purpose, often to unfairly or improperly gain benefit.
So when he say he abused a child it is not the same as child abuse. Since abusing a child can also relate to gain benefit unfairly or to easy. ex. "like stealing candy from a child" is to abuse a child.
so what he refered to is probably that he felt, WHATEVER they did, (holding hand, dating, kissing or having, what everyone is saying he had, sex) that it was to easy for him because he felt he had the upper hand of age, 5 years to be precise.
If they really did have sex on American grounds that's statutory rape. If the girl or her parents wanted to press charges it'll be quick arrest and booking.
Even if he is French, he'll still be under American laws on American soil.
Being a chomo is not the best rep to have anywhere - especially prison.
Another shinning example of pro gaming.... Still this kind of crap talk sounds pretty much like any random day on pretty much any online game if you have public chat on.
So........ Tasteless joke made by Stephano bad, but Samayan's initial response of "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" is good......
haha what an idiot..
I hope he gets ban for good and makes room for good sports to play professionally.
I'm sure most of us here would love to be paid to play the games we love and he does it and screwed it up by raging like a noob in e-Sports.
Yes we have all had our little rages in our casual games but when you are being paid to game from sponsors and are representing your country there is no excuse to act that way. Thats why its professional gaming
The reactions are disgusting. He made a shitty joke to his friend and people take no pause to unleash their inner authoritarian and use thin emotional excuses to facilitate what they really want: control and regulation. A human-being who cannot simply ignore scenarios that he is not coerced into is a human-being who has lost his autonomy; to be independent agents is our most distinguished feature. To rely on institutional powers to make you feel safe and in control is to dehumanize yourself. This does not call for an apology, nor does it call for punishment. If you are offended by this, then that is your problem. Did he constrain you and talk things you didn't want to hear into your ear? No. And to all the young adults who want to brandish their new-found 'maturity' by calling any dissent to popular opinion as 'childish' or a need to 'grow up', just fuck off. To become a hypersensitive automaton that fetishes only for the solidification of institutional overreach is not to grow up.
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@n0matter I know, right?! Makes you wish your life didn't suck so much.
@Sahle123 I promise you that I will never regret pursuing a life of education,family and a lucrative career in lieu of failing out of high school and putting off college in order to pursue a career in a video gaming that no one will remember 10 years from now. Oh, and being caught for making "silly" pedophilia comments on the job, being reprimanded and then blaming the public for "not getting it" afterwards. If my life sucks, this hairy frog must be freebasing prozac just to get going in the morning. Poor bastard.
Calling complete bullsh!t on school preparing you for life... complete and utter rubbish. I am at the best business school in canada (schulich) and top 25 in world studying financial economics. I have never learnt anything in school that will prepare me for life. Also tools that stay with you for life and can apply anywhere is also rubbish. Ask some people who works because i know tons of people on bay street that will tell you they learnt nothing from university other then a degree.
Also again complete bs on bankers making a million $$ for 30 years. Do you know how hard you need to bust your ass and for how long to even get into that position?? You need to work with a firm for a good 10-15 years to even make something even close to that. You also need to be really good at it not anyone makes that. Also what specialization are you talking about being stable? portfolio mangers are very unstable and one bad mistake will ruin you for your whole life.... investment banking? wealth management works the same way. Define what specialization you mean when you say banker before you say their jobs are stable.
I don't know if his personal profits were 190k and if it was good for him. But in the long run - that's not very much. Maybe it seems like a lot to students or people are struggling right now.Big difference is - job security and status gain.
Going to college and/or learning skills will give you tools and education that'll stay with you for life and you can apply anywhere. There's a reason why people say - go to school and learn something. It really is the best way to prepare for life.
Shoot. Just being decently educated can easily get you a job that makes 80K ~ 90K with job security and improvements for the future with benefits.
A banker can make a million dollars per year for 30 years of his life and never have to worry about his job
Pro-Gamers usually have nothing if they start doing poorly or retire. Even more so than pro-athletes. That's why in Korea they have some education standards setup so they can at least be somewhat ok.
He went pro in late 2010 october i think. And has made 190k just from tournaments. Add in the money he gets every month from EG + sponsors etc.
He has made over 250k in 2 years of being a pro gamer. His housing is also paid for, so are his flights and hotel for all the tournaments he goes to. IDK about you but that sounds like a lucrative career.
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He confessed he raped a 14 yo and that's all he got? Awww yes, he said "lol jk" when he got caught, still cops aren't investigating?
@s4dn3s5 No one said rape. Why do you think it was rape?
@gufberg He said: "Sam, I have abused a child yesterday". Do you think abused = consent? Why?
@s4dn3s5 He is joking about the fact that had sex with someone under the legal age and calls it 'abuse' to emphasize it. This is part of what makes a joke.
Do i have to explain the parameters of 'fun' to you? Do you stay this much indoors?
@gufberg @s4dn3s5 never stretched your argument. you said a girl who is sexually developed can consent to sex. i just plugged in ages. i'm basing sexual developments on biology, which you did as well, so a nine year old can be sexually developed. happens all the time. so a nine year says okay to sex with a 19 year old, and the 19 year old has sex with her is wrong. you obviously have no children or even care for any,. get help. quick.
@bmgd70 @s4dn3s5 Stretching my argument ad absurdium doesn't make you right. Quite contrarily it just proves the futility of your argument. Also inferring that im a pervert with no knowledge of psychology or sociology - two widely different social sciences of which i actually have a rudimentary understanding - seems like a personal attack stemming from a lack of actual arguments. I doubt there is such a thing as a fully sexually developed 9 year old. A fully developed 14 year old who WANTS to have sex with a 19 year old? Is that wrong? no. Do i approve of it? no. But my opinion doesn't matter. Only the opinions of those involved in the act. But then ofcourse i disagree with you - so i must be a pervert.
@gufberg @s4dn3s5 my point about the 10 year old is where do you draw the line? and i like how you say "is likely to be developed". and if you believe that is okay for an 18 year old male to have sex with 14 year old girl just because she is "sexually developed" and she consents, then yes you are a pervert and you need help. Our biology functions differ from our mental functions and capacities. So a 14 year old girl, just because she has biologically developed does not mean she can go have sex with a 18 year old male. Girls are sexually developed at very young ages. Based on your reasoning, it would be okay if a nine year old girl who has developed has consensual sex with a 40 year old man.
It seems the gaming industry is trying to make children in general less of a target in any case that is possible. I mean, hell, you can't even kill kids in Elder Scrolls games or Fallout games (not including the original Fallout games on PC)
I Love how they make these guys seem like super stars or actors. Starcraft player makes headlines. Big F***in whop di DA.
do people not realize that what you say in a public domain, can actually end up in........lets say.......public???
they should have arrested him for those god damn pants, a fashion crime of epic proportions, dear god those pants...
THEY HURT ME....
I'm sure it was true too so all you d-bags can keep defending a fucking chester. And even if it wasn't, what kind of person "jokes" about that kind of shit, I mean seriously.
@CKeenan07 Exactly. His joke would not be funny at all if he had just invented the incident. It has to be an insider joke based on real events.
Im suprised everyone here rolls with 'ouh, it was a bad joke' lol yea right.
It seems people are looking at the age of his victim and overlooking the fact that said victim is indeed just that: a victim.
Aren't these guys called "EVIL geniuses?" Come on. This guy is just being a jackass and I really doubt anything like this actually happened, but if it did, it's a job for the authorities and no one else. I think his punishment is fair for the comments. When you're being sponsored, you have to watch what you say. It's the way of the world.
he does that kind of things. this is why i don't like him. here is another:
"HasuObs stated on his twitter account: "damnit, so nervous about todays TSL4 qualifier results @_@", in reply, Stephano, maybe mad because he lost [0-2] to Cytoplams, maybe as a joke, or in true I do not care Stephano, replied to HasuOBS's twitt: "maybe start kill some jews", a rather jokeless or even better a bad joke. The Mousesports organization had to reply to Stephano "You just went way too far Stephano, seriously.'"
Definitely a fucked up joke, if it is one that is. None of us were there so guess we'll just have to see if the police go through with an investigation.
Though I'll admit I make some fucked up jokes with my friends in private, nothing involving minors, but still. Considering his "friend" posted the picture it makes me wonder if he actually wants to be on the team. Wouldn't be the first time someone says something stupid to be let out of a contractual agreement.
"My comments were taken way out of context. When I said I wanted to 'Zerg-rush her Terran bunker with my Hydralisk all night long' I meant it literally!"
Everyone keeps talking about if he "abused a child", but he was talking about a 14 year old girl. Illegal or not, 14 year old girls have boyfriends all over the world, and girls that age sometimes date guys who are 17, 18, and even 19. That includes half of the high school football players on most of the highschool football teams in America. And in Europe where this guy is from, it would especially not be a big deal. So all these comments about "abusing a child" are pretty inaccurate, considering this. Try using your brains, people.
@EventualDecline What do you mean by "all these comments about 'abusing a child'"? Those were his words! Also, illegal or not is actually a pretty big distinction...
@EventualDecline "in Europe where this guy is from, it would especially not be a big deal"European here: 14 y/o is a no-go here if you don't have 14 y/o yourself (At least in Spain, France and Germany). Also, we are talking about the comment it self, not his intentions. So don't talk nonsense, please.
@Warlord_Irochi The legal age in Germany for sex is 14. In Spain it's 13. In France it's 15, so it would be illegal there, true. You're wrong about Germany and Spain though. It's only 14 in Italy also.
@Andrew1073 Tell me what the difference is between a 13+13 and a 13+18. What makes one more acceptable than the other?
@Andrew1073That is correct, but in my opinion it's no worse than a 13 year old having sex with another 13 year old. Hopefully the 30 year old is more mature and understands what they are getting into, and not knocking up a teen.
But really, what makes it "wrong"? Because the law (in your country) says it is? If that was the age of consent in your own country, you would find it completely normal. You would find it weird that in other countries you had to wait that much longer for it to be legal. How you're conditioned to think about these things is all down to culture.
Right now racism against blacks is not something to tolerate, or slavery. But it was only decades ago that people thought completely differently. Slavery was a very normal thing, not abhorred at all. The zeitgeist shifts, and so do people's thinking.
@Falru I saw the pic, that doesn't change my point that 14 year old girls date boys all the time, and are often sexually active. So I think a lot of you are over-reacting, a bit. It's not even necessarily illegal for a 19 year old to have sex with a 14 year old, depending on where you live.
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