Cover Shot (Exact original image source uncertain)
(Note: I am aware that the picture may well be the result of some person's imagination.)
Firstly, I am not a frequent consumer of console hardware or console games. However, I do acknowledge their appeals though, especially that of consoles being mainly dedicated gaming hardware.
Personally, I am wary of the proprietary restrictions that come with being a (legitimate) consumer of console products, but I do recognize the conveniences that are provided by these, such as being able to send faulty hardware for refurbishment (albeit for a fee), as well as the ease of design that developers get from having to work with systems with specific (albeit somewhat limited) technical designs.
I also find this very convenient for moving a player character about a 2D plane.
In other words, I am a lot more open to console gaming than you would think.
A HOPE FOR MORE VARIETY IN GAME PRODUCTS
First things first: the technical designs of console machines will make it likely that game designs eventually hit a technological barrier. When this may happen is debatable, of course, but it is difficult to argue that it won't happen for certain. Besides, there had been generations of console machines that are more sophisticated than their forebearers that came along to usurp their predecessors as the dominant products in the console hardware markets, thus making it difficult to refute this claim.
Non-game products are intended to extend the life cycle of console machines.
Of course, I am aware that console-makers are resorting to adding non-game-related functionalities to the console machines. However, this effectively turns them into general home entertainment devices, away from their roots as dedicated gaming machines. This may not be pleasing to puritan gamers of course, but any wise person would realize that these people are no longer the target customers of console-makers.
Personally, I am in favor of these decisions of the console-makers, as the console machines have the technical prowess to support applications other than just gaming. I find it wasteful if all those electronics are dedicated to only segment of digital entertainment. Yet, even these non-gaming applications will hit the aforementioned design barrier eventually.
That said, returning to the matter of next-generation consoles, having consoles that are more advanced than the current-generation ones would allow for even more applications, which of course means more variety of entertainment options to be had for the customer.
Perhaps more importantly, more advanced technology allows for more sophistication in the games that would be designed for these machines. Of course, this statement is ultimately just a forecast, based on examination of previous generation consoles and their games. One could argue that the only improvements so far have only been aesthetics, though another can argue that games that were once limited to the computer platforms are already appearing on the consoles, namely the shooters, the simpler ones of the real-time strategy genre and of course turn-based strategy games.
On the other hand, it remains to be seen whether consoles would be just playing catch-up with the computer platforms or not when it comes to offering variety in games.
It would be easy to presume that next-generation consoles will be more technologically sophisticated in order to offer more variety in games and non-game products. However, there is the doubt that there are ...
UNCERTAINTIES IN DESIGNS AND OFFERING OF GAMES ...
Now, I am not one to have no skepticism and be all "glass half-full" - or "all-full", if I would be deluded enough to think that there cannot possibly be any issues when I do not have any information or guarantee that nothing could go wrong.
(Yes, there are people like these - namely those that say that "console-makers have learned lessons from the past" or that "the next-gen consoles won't be expensive" when they do not have any concrete data to support these claims.)
The only way to clear these doubts is by having more information on these next-generation consoles, but all there are to be had seem to be merely unverifiable statements and images that may or may not even be true.
Hopefully, the differences that next-generation consoles have compared to their predecessors are not just only aesthetic. (Orbis is not entirely confirmed to be the PS4.)
There is little if anything concrete on the designs and specifications of the next-generation consoles that Sony Entertainment and Microsoft Games are developing, and whatever claims there are, if they are true, only pertain to designs that are still on the figurative drawing board.
Then, there are the games that would come in the wake of these would-be new consoles. Looking back at the history of past generation of consoles, console-makers made use of launch line-ups of games that are convincingly different from those for previous-generation ones to market their new consoles with.
The Wii U, if it can be considered a next-generation console (and there are many opinions that express doubt at this or even outright denial), could be seen as having failed to do this.
After all, the confirmed titles for the Wii U include many games that have already debuted on other platforms, or are continuations of franchises that have been around for a long time.
There is a silver lining to the Wii U's line-up of games, of course, such as ZombiU, which has a control option that I find somewhat refreshing, namely moving the Wii-U gamepad around for finer aiming, as opposed to using only analog sticks (which I do not consider to be practical enough for this purpose). Moreover, the usual control options for console games are still there on the gamepad, e.g. the usual D-pad layouts and analog sticks.
The use of two screens (one on the TV and the other on the gamepad) may allow for features that are infrequently seen in video games, like tracking and manipulating two objects of interest separately and independently of each other (which is a feature that some games for Nintendo's current handhelds have done already, I am aware, and perhaps which the VITA and PS3 would do).
I am very much aware of the jeers that these are just "gimmicks", if you are thinking that I do not. However, I would say here that if not for these gimmicks, console machines would just be playing catch-up with the computer platforms, as suggested earlier. (I am also aware that the more snobbish of PC elitists would love to keep claiming this.)
Without these gimmicks, there would be nothing to differentiate games on console platforms from those on the computer platforms. Of course, others (likely the same snobbish PC elitists) can argue that whatever the console platforms can do, the computer platforms can do, but I am not seeing any concerted effort by hardware- and game-makers to develop the same gimmicks for the computer games market (for which the same snobs would say that these gimmicks are not wanted, of course).
(Side note: Much of what the more outspoken of PC elitists say are bitter, sanctimonious and exaggerated arguments that are often not substantiated by hard data and unarguably relevant facts, by the way.)
It remains to be seen if Nintendo and its game-making partners would utilize the potential behind the Wii U's gimmicks, but if Nintendo wants the Wii U to be as successful as its predecessors, it had better provide support for game-makers who have ideas for the Wii U, and not just help them port existing IPs over to the platform.
... AND UNCERTAINTY IN COST INFLUENCES ON DESIGN AND PRICING
With more advanced technology, the new consoles would be more expensive than previous consoles which use older technology. This is a difficult-to-deny statement.
Of course, one can argue that the next-generation consoles would likely use technology that had debuted years earlier to cut costs, much like what had been done for the current-generation ones, but they would still likely have price tags that are higher than the current price tags of current-generation consoles (which have since dropped in asking price since their launch, by the way).
If this is so, this will ever pose a hurdle in getting consumers who are used to the current-generation consoles' prices to buy the next-generation ones.
A (rather naive) person could say that console-makers would sell the next-generation consoles at a loss to cut down its asking price and spur sales, while compensating by making money off the software products for the consoles. The same person would point to the past (again) to bolster this claim.
But here's a catch (I like saying this, I admit): the next-generation consoles have to offer products that have not been offered for previous- and current-generation consoles in order to be seen as offering something new. Otherwise, it would be seen as just recycling things that have already been done before.
Another catch is that investors may not allow this to happen. The likes of Sony Entertainment have sold some of their consoles at losses, promising investors that there would be pay-offs down the line from having a wider customer base for its software products. Although this move certainly did not turn out disastrous (at least for the PS3), the pay-offs have not been consistently substantial either, upon examination of Sony's yearly financial statements and the segments on its Sony Entertainment subsidiary.
Of course, if one is to look at somewhat-related facts, Nintendo appeared to have persuaded its investors to allow it to do this for the Wii U, citing the same promise of compensating by software sales (albeit this was reworded as "combining sales of hardware and software"). However, it remains to be seen if Sony and Microsoft can do the same without investors baulking and thinking that their executives have gone bananas.
On a not-entirely-unrelated note, this is popularly thought to be a hint at Donkey Kong, but the kanji above him (which Iwata said is a reference to Nintendo's work culture that is oriented around "creating something unique" - and another Donkey Kong game is certainly not "unique") may suggest that this is a sarcastic jab by Nintendo's leadership at its skeptics.
... AND DOUBTS OVER WHAT REALLY IS "NEXT-GENERATION"
I believe that the worst outcome that could happen is that the next-generation consoles are not really more technologically advanced. They might turn out to be just repackaging and restructuring of existing console technology in some new shell.
(Having gimmicks in addition is not the worst outcome to me. At least the gimmicks make the console remarkable, for better or worse; this is still better than recycling, which would be boring.)
I know, it is quite difficult to believe that this can happen for Sony's or Microsoft's next-generation consoles - but we do not have any guarantee that this would not happen, do we?
Using the example of the Wii U again, it has been argued, such as by the likes of Bitmob, that the Wii U is only "next-generation" because it is a successor to the Wii, and does not have other "qualifications" of being next-generation, such as having convincingly "better" technical specs than the PS3 or Xbox 360, and that its main difference is it having gimmicks in its control options.
Then, there are counter-arguments - usually by Nintendo's supporters, such as Nintendo Life - that the next-generation is "about the experience", that is, the utilization of gimmicks for gaming experiences that are more than just a single lonely gamer holding a conventional controller in one's hands and sitting on a couch.
I am using a lot of quotation marks here, because those who are putting forth these arguments do not seem to be aware that there is no empiric definition of what is "next-generation", much less any consensus. They are making unilateral definitions of what is "next-generation" as they see fit.
That there are all sorts of outlandish concept art for the next-generation is, to me, another indicator that people don't really know what "next-generation" really is, if it is anything other than a loosely-coined term.
ANOTHER HOPE: MORE OPTIONS AND FREEDOM FOR CONSUMERS
Personally, I consider consumer-friendliness to be the most important aspect of any product.
Unfortunately, this aspect is also the reason that I am not too eager to peruse some console-makers' products - specifically Microsoft Games' and Sony Entertainment's. (You may want to notice that I am referring to specific subsidiaries of the corporations that are Microsoft and Sony.)
Neither of them has gained my confidence. The legal agreements that customers have to accede to in order to receive services from either of them require customers to use their products in ways that are only sanctioned by Sony Entertainment or Microsoft Games, or else lose privileges for customer support and online services (i.e. Sony's PSN and Microsoft's Xbox LIVE), as well as face possible lawsuits if they publicly reveal ways to use their consoles that are not condoned by either console-maker.
I cannot stomach these (especially the lawsuits), and therefore when I was faced with the "take-it-or-leave-it" deals that they have, I leave. That is not to say that I haven't used their products before though - I thank my friends for letting me mooch off them for an hour or two with some console games that caught my interest.
Therefore, it is my hope that Sony Entertainment and Microsoft Games would at the very least, be like Nintendo when it comes to relationships between customers and them, i.e. being laid-back, having their figurative hands off the customer and letting the customer do whatever he/she wants with the console machines.
Otherwise, the likes of Ouya can always claim to be "better" than what they can offer, despite criticisms that arise from Ouya's requirements that its games be either "free-to-play" or demos, to cite just one perceived setback (which I do not personally see as a problem, but I know some other people do).
After all, Ouya is having collaborations with open-source organizations like XBMC and Google Android - something that remains unheard of for Sony Entertainment's and Microsoft Games' consoles (or at least not that I know of; I am having difficulty finding info for any such collaborative project for the Xbox or Playstation).
These two mascots might never appear next to the logos for the Xbox or Playstation.
I am not saying that I would be supporting Ouya whole-heartedly and without reservations; besides, I didn't contribute to its Kickstarter project. However, I can say that I have far less aversion to Ouya than I would PS4/Orbis or the XBox 720/Durango, which I expect Sony Entertainment and Microsoft Games to shackle with stifling legal agreements.
That's all that I would write for now. I may update this blog post with more things if you would leave a suggestion. That said, happy Thanksgiving, Deepavali and Muharram for anyone who are celebrating/observing them!
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I probably should have qualified my initial statement better, what I actually meant to ask was why do some pc gamers hate consoles so much. Apologies for the confusion:)
@N-bellic Not all of them do. I am predominantly a PC gamer but have both current gen consoles because, as you said, each platform has its pros and cons. I'll buy the next gen consoles while upgrading my PC for the same reason.
Some of us just like playing the best games around regardless of which platform they come on,
Same here, I play games on pc, xbox 360 ans ps3 and although my pc is showing it's age a tad, it can still play all the latest titles on medium to low settings. I just hate it that whenever I mention that I own an xbox 360 and a ps3 I've always got some stupid prick telling me how he hates consoles and how stupid I am for playing them.
Unfortunately this site is full of said pricks who think it best to go around insulting people based what systems they use, what gamed they enjoy etc. When did gamers become such dicks?
@N-bellic And you mate.
Totally! Happy gaming!
@N-bellic I think it all started when that internet thing was invented :) One-upmanship is the curse of modern man.
I'm guessing most PC gamers who slag off consoles have never owned one. Ditto for console gamers who hate PC. I would imagine though that games you play on PC at medium or low settings won't look any different to how they look on console.
Actually come to think of it, you may be better off. I got Dishonoured for PC and it looks totally pants. Low res textures in high resolution just look awful, to me it's the graphic equivalent of turd polishing.
Good for you that you enjoy the best of all worlds, I am too and at the risk of stooping to internet one-upmanship I think it's fair to say we are the ones who will have the last laugh :)
Not directing that at you btw:)
Just to let you know I did read this article and appreciate your point of view, just didn't have a response to give :D
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@Gelugon_baat Oh dear now look what I've done, I've made you all upset and angry. Bless.
Please point out to me exactly what I have said that makes me a snobbish PC elitist. Was it when I pointed out that I have both current gen consoles from MS and Sony which I bought specifically to play certain games? Is that what makes me a PC snob? 'I am seeing no elaboration from you'.
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@Gelugon_baat Please go right ahead and do so. I played retro games when they were current so not considered 'retro'. I see no need to cling to the past like this.
Re: Dishonoured. Let me explain something to you, when I have been playing The Witcher 2 on a 27 inch IPS monitor at 2560 at 1440 resolution and it looks absolutely astonishing you're damned right I'm going to complain when I see the PC version of Dishonoured which simply ports the same textures from console and ups the resolution.
I HATE lazy ports and make no excuse for that and certainly won't apologise for it.
Who was the guy who said PC gaming was dead? Are you really that stupid? Don't you realize that it's the hardware that's developed for PC's that ends up get passed down to your beloved consoles? Even if you do end up getting the sloppy seconds and in some cases sloppy thirds that have been available to PC gamers for years. If it wasn't for PC games and the hardware that is developed for them you wouldn't have a PS3 or Xbox360 to play on.
pc gaming isnt dead
its being murdered by microsoft
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microsoft made damn sure that the witcher 2 came out on pc
"its frekickin amazing ,perfect score ,POWER HOUSE pc exclusive"
"it also runs on xbox 360"
sure me and you know the differnce is major
but their playing psychological games on people
they did that with crysis 2 also
whens the last time a popular "incredible"(10) pc exclusive came out
there even thinking about trying to bring diablo 3 to consoles
I have this weird feeling that people are expecting too much out of this next-gen hype that surrounds the gaming news. I also don't think gamers know what they actually bring and what the heck it means. While you take a more elaborate and convoluted approach on the next-gen subject, and it's your gig here afterall, I'd say things are too simple. "Next generation" consoles are nothing but an upgrade to the current consoles in a newer shape. Appart from the better graphics and processing power they'll come with, obviously new operating system and interface will come at their aid. But that's it. Technology upgraded to that of the one already existing for PC in a new package. No new cutting edge technology, they won't create holodecks in your homes, you won't get smarter gameplay, new mechanics or brighter AI. People have been fooled into thinking "next-gen" will bring something totaly new to them. Developers claimed their creativity is held back by old consoles. I call it false advertising. They are not making those games direstly on consoles, but choose to downgrade them because they treat PCs like a garbage compactor. Many will be disappointed to what the new consoles will actually bring. Guess what!? Next day they will be surpassed by newer technology available for PC.
@xsonicchaos thats only partially true. New engines running on the newer consoles will have better AI. They also are a pretty big technological jump. Its already been confirmed that the new PS4 will support 4k resolution for the new 4k (as opposed to 1080) tv sets that are coming onto the market now. (granted it'll probably be years before these sets are affordable and most networks actually provide 4k programming)You also have to factor in that Valve is also entering the console market soon, which will definitely blur the lines between pc & console gaming.I actually think that things like motion and voice control will also start to become much more common place as the tech advances. I wouldnt be surprised if social networks actually started becoming more avatar driven as well.
I'll skip the parts of your blog that state the blatantly obvious (which is most of it) and comment on a few things that caught my eye.
Firstly, the dual screen 'gimmick' for the WIIU, you say next gen consoles need such gimmicks to keep up with their computer counterparts. Really? What about all the platform exclusives then? I have a 360 which I bought purely to play Lost Odyssey and the Halo games and a PS3 for the Final Fantasy games (the first one was much better on PS3) and Uncharted. None of the games planned for WIIU interest me in the slightest I couldn't care less what gimmicks they have or haven't got.
I also have a powerful PC which I play games on. I note your constant cheap unsavoury digs at PC gamers I'm not sure where this comes from. Are you too poor to buy a PC for gaming purposes, or maybe a PC gamer shagged your girlfriend and you've never got over it? Regardless you come across as positively childish in your vicious attacks on PC gamers.
Your suggestion that the next gen consoles from Sony and MS may not be technologically advanced compared to the previous gen (and hence not really 'next gen' ) is one of the most stupid things I've read on the internet and that's saying something.
By the way you may want to reconsider your tone when replying to people who have done you the service of reading your drivel. You come across as arrogant, condescending and downright rude in your comments to people. Trust me you're nothing special, really.
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"I never said that console systems need gimmicks to keep up with the computer platforms - NEVER."
It wasn't you who said this then?
I would say here that if not for these gimmicks, console machines would just be playing catch-up with the computer platforms, as suggested earlier. (I am also aware that the more snobbish of PC elitists would love to keep claiming this.)
Without these gimmicks, there would be nothing to differentiate games on console platforms from those on the computer platforms".
So without 'gimmicks' console games have nothing to offer that you won't find on PC? So all the exclusives that will never make it to PC are of no interest to anyone then? Okay, thanks for clearing that up.
"Platform exclusives are the result of game-makers wanting to focus on a specific market - I don't see them as advantages that consoles have".
Are you really saying platform exclusives are not an advantage? Seriously? That's an incredible statement. Ask Nintendo where they'd be without Mario, Sonic et al. Ask MS how successful the XBOX would have been without Halo. For Sony there are countless exclusives that attracted people to each of their consoles. To suggest exclusives don't attract consumers is staggeringly stupid.
Re: next gen consoles not being more technologically advanced what exactly do you want me to elaborate on? I'll spell it out for you if you really need me to. More powerful processors, advanced graphics at 'proper' HD resolutions as opposed to current gen which isn't even 720p, more storage, better internet connectivity, increased 3D support (yes that's important to those of us who have HDTV's that support 3D) and I'm not even including the 'gimmicks' that seem to impress you so much. If none of this seems like a technological leap to you well... there are no words...
To clarify, I didn't say 'you' were stupid, I said some of your comments were, a view that has not changed since your latest reply.
@Gelugon_baat I don't need data. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain. Clearly that doesn't include you.
@Gelugon_baat Proof? lol. You want proof that next gen consoles will have superior hardware to current ones? I know you can't be serious with this nonsense. If you're trying to bait me into insulting you so you can report me to the mods you are in serious 'fail' mode.
Like I said, we'll continue this hilarious 'discussion' when the next gen consoles are announced.
@Gelugon_baat You're not considering possibilities that are far-fetched, you are considering a scenario which we all know will never happen. You dug a hole for yourself with your earlier comments and now, instead of admitting it was a foolish thing to say you seek to justifiy it out of sheer bloody-mindedness.
In other words, you're arguing for the sake of it. In that sense you're right, there is little to gain from continuing this. We'll return to it when the specs for the new consoles are released.
@Gelugon_baat There is as much chance of that happening as cows suddenly falling from the sky and your house turning into a giant elephant while you're still at school. I can say with absolute certainty they will not rebadge current gen consoles and claim them to be next gen the same way I can say with absolute certainty we won't wake up tomorrow to find the world is actually triangular shaped.
If they're not going to change the hardware there is no need at all to make new consoles. You would have to be spectacularly stupid not to realise that.
@Gelugon_baat No of course it won't happen in the future. Sony and MS will put out exactly the same hardware with a new name for next gen because they are incredibly stupid and think we won't notice. Of course.
I put no words in your mouth I asked if you thought current gen consoles were no improvement on past ones given that you claim to believe next gen will be no improvement on this one though I am still convinced you are trolling. NOBODY would be so stupid as to suggest such a thing.
@Gelugon_baat Are you trolling? Every generation of consoles has shown significant improvement in hardware over earlier generations. Do you really not know this? Do you think the 360 is an XBOX with a new name and the PS3 is really a PS2?
Are you going to admit to such stupidity? Are you saying I am naive to think next gen consoles will not show advances in technology over current ones?
You're hilarious. I'm going to keep some of your quotes to present to people for future 'most retarded things you've ever read on the internet' discussions.
@Gelugon_baat It's difficult to have any kind of sensible discussion with someone believes that next gen consoles may be no improvement technically on current gen consoles.
It's mind-boggling that anyone would give this nonsense any vague semblance of credence.
Let's have a wager. Anything you like, any amount of money within your means, that the next gen consoles will be a significant improvement in terms of hardware over current gen. To suggest otherwise is simply beyond ridiculous.
And no, come on wasn't all I said at all. I 'elaborated' on what I believe to be the importance of exclusives yet in your reply 'I am seeing no elaboration from you' to support your argument.
Exclusives are what differentiate one console from the other. Look at all the multi-platform reviews on the big gaming sites including this one. Not only do they give these games the same score across all platforms, they give them exactly the same review!
The performance difference of the 360 v the PS3 on multi-platform titles is so negligible as to be of no consequence no matter what fanboys of one platform or the other would have you believe. Exclusives mean absolutely everything for future gen consoles although I agree it's becoming a bit tired with them regurgitating the same 'exclusives' with each generation. It will still determine which console sells most at launch.
You have indeed suggested next gen consoles may not be more technologically advanced. These are your words verbatim:
"I believe that the worst outcome that could happen is that the next-generation consoles are not really more technologically advanced. They might turn out to be just repackaging and restructuring of existing console technology in some new shell".
There is no basis whatsoever to this supposition unless you genuinely expect MS and Sony to repackaged their current consoles and release them with a new name. I expect there may be a bit of an uproar of this happens.
With regards to 'proof' of what I elaborated upon, come on... it's absolutely nailed on next gen consoles will have far superior graphics and processors. I will concede there may not be better 3D support that is indeed an expectation as is improved internet connectivity but the heart of the systems will be a dramatic improvement over their predecessors.
Well, I built myself a gaming comp with a 6-core proc and a 550 gtx card. Good stats but not great I know even so I load Skyrim in 2-3 seconds and run at a much higher framerate then my xbox 360 version.
Everyone knows it's high time for a new console. That's not really a debatable issue since that's what Microsoft/Sony think and that's exactly what they are doing. Making new consoles. So let me move on to my point.
Consoles are increasingly like computers in their tech. This next generation of consoles might as well be called "compact gaming computers" because that is exactly what they are. So why not take full advantage of that? Instead of blowing yer whole wad on one expensive design so to speak, make consoles UPGRADABLE! Ofcourse that has inherent issues namely hacker vulnerability so control exactly what upgrades the console can receive. Example: If you design the console with future upgrades in mind you can release an "xbox upgrade kit" every 4 years or so to the masses. Cheaper for Microsoft, cheaper for us. So why not do it?
@Runock Speaking of upgrades, the GPU in my labtop literaly died minutes after I viewed this post and it will be 6 months before I could afford a rig. I guess it's time to hook up my PS3 .
@Runock Sega released some infamous upgrades for the mega drives in the past. and Nintendo had a ram upgrade for the N64. can't say they did well.
to make consoles upgradable
xbox and PS would have to develop tons of new unique hardware
the likelyhood of technical problems getting units upgraded(when the time came)
and the confusion about which system was capable to run what game at what spec
it would be a disaster
--and theres no way xbox or PS would build a console that was upgradable with regular old pc parts
--that would be the end of consoles
why is everyone talking about next gen and stuff. ps3 and 360 have a long way to go before they use their full power to run a game. developers are just getting lazy so they claming for new hardware.
Where did you hear that? I got my first gaming PC about 8 months ago. It has a midrange graphics card and yet I was amazed at how much better it ran the same games. I can run Skyim with 6+ GB of hi-res textures and a dozen various graphics related mods and still get a small fraction of the load times. I think I already know the answer, but how much do you know about computer hardware? Or are you just repeating what you heard from someone else who may or may not know what they're talking about because you want it to be true? Current gen hardware is old and in serious need of a replacement.
if wiiU is successful(with its 7th gen graphics)
xbox and playstation will NEVER get a true 8th gen console on the shelves
and really(if wiiU sells well)
why should they?
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--the suckcess of the wii is why xbox and PS are still in 7th gen
--at the latest we woulda got xbox3 and PS4 woulda been this holiday season
--if it hadnta been for kinnect and move
@TheZeroPercent i think most of your notions are correct. never thought about it that way, but it is sad that sony and ms just kinda threw in the motion controls.
--also i think you are intelligent enough to hang with me in an arguement and come up with new realitys and possibilitys
--most guys on sites like this are blind fanboys who cant handle the truth
--youre welcome to use any of my ideas in your blog
--"Are You a Blind Fanboy Who can't handle the Truth?"
--i dont wanna make blogs
i definitely know what atroll is
im not trolling you i swear
i just wanted to argue the future of the 8th gen
you seemed in
then you accused me of riding your blog (like ANYONE)i sreading my shit
--i found your blog topic interesting
--but do you just use your blog to troll people as you see fit
--if youre not interested in talking about opinions and topics based around your blog
--that means you are just a troll
--im fine with that
--just let me know
--motion controls are the future of gaming
--but its gonna be a while(5-12 years) before that kinda gaming can be pulled off properly & popularized
--but even when the tech to successfully pulloff full immersion 3d gaming mixed with motion controls(the future of gaming)
--there will still be tons of popular side scrollers and all the other genres of games as we know them(there always will be)
--MS and PS didnt get into motion controls to help build the future of gaming
--they got into it because nintendo was having (at the time) twice the console sales as they were
--MS and Sony are not looking to build the future of gaming
--theyre looking to monopolize it
--SO...(as i said to start with)
--if wiiU sells millions and millions of units, games and downloads
--xbox and PS will be encouraged NOT to build a 8th gen machine
--but to add a tablet to their current consoles and incorporate the touchscreen gimmicks to their production standards
--MS has already made the backup plans to do such a thing
--why do i say this as if it where a fact?(you say you want "some kinda" reason or "proof") i have no proof but i have common sense
--just today there was an article on all gaming sites
--about how epic claims 8th gen will cost double to 5 times as much to produce games for
--xbox and PS are not looking for the opportunity to try and sell 2500$ consoles with games that cost somewhere between 128-320$
--if they instead see an affordable "gimmick"(tablet to tv gaming) to extend the life span of their dated but paid for work horses
--their gonna jump that pony and ride it into the sunset
--sorta proving or atleast giving decent fact based reason why that
"if wiiU is successful(with its 7th gen graphics)
xbox and playstation will NEVER get a true 8th gen console on the shelves"
-- loved wii for years(motion controls HOWEVER are not a part of my gaming life anymore)(i 100%ed skyward sword and i laid my wii controller to rest)
--but... i HATE what the suckcess of wii did to the gaming industry
-- western industry is based on capitalism
--thats IS WHY we have kinnect & move baat
--because wii SOLD
--that was it, just sales
--move and kinnect wasnt based on what gamers where actually doin with the consoles
--those copy cat pieces of turd were only based on sale$
--and if it hadnt of been for that whole deal
--PS4 and xbox3 woulda been out already
Well, all I know is that most new PC games feel like a busted piece of crap because they're made for underpowered consoles and ported over. I like consoles for fighting games and racers and that's it but i wouldn't buy on. I won't be upgrading my pc again as there's not much point... computer gaming is dead. As far as your article goes, I didn't read it but looks like you put some effort into it. Now i'm off to play counterstrike source