The Wii U in the great scheme of things is a very small deal. If Microsoft told Ubisoft they wanted it and not only did they want it they wanted it at the same time the Wii U got it, Ubisoft would agree. That's what I'm guessing happened. I don't know what actually happened because spending ten seconds thinking about the fate of a kids platform game was too long but I did it anyway.
So by now it's known that Rayman Legends is no longer a WiiU exclusive as well as it's going to delayed again until Sept. now. Now first of all while I am a Nintendo fan, I have no problem with this going multiplatform. 3rd party exclusives are becoming a thing of the past. We saw this last gen when once exclusive Sony titles like Final Fantasy and Devil May Cry jumped to the 360. Companies need to make money and to do that you want to get the title on as many platforms as you can leaving first party exclusives to push consoles.
I loved Rayman Origins. Easily my favorite game of 2011. After years of being upstaged by the Rabbids and being another obscure platforming star, Rayman returned in a 2D sidescroller that put all the others including Mario to shame. Amazing visuals, excellent controls and challenging without feeling cheap and thank God Ubisoft didn't do the stupid "downloadable episode" crap like Sega did with Sonic 4. I was psyched to play it especially after playing the WiiU demo. Mind you the only actual playable demo on the WiiU kiosks. Legends was going to be multiplatform but then was announced as a WiiU exclusive that gamers didn't have a hissy fit over now going back to multiplatform. Geez Ubisoft make up your minds.
What upsets me is well this... http://www.gamespot.com/news/rayman-legends-developer-attacks-shiy-industry-for-wii-u-delay-6403650
I simpathize with these devs. Imagine you work you tail off for months, spending time away from your family, working hard to meet the deadline then less than a month before release the suits come in and say "whoops, we're going multiplatform now and it's not going to be out until Sept. so you can do this." I'd be pissed off too.
Also supposedly the WiiU version of the game is nearly done? Why make this version sit on the sidelines just so the 360 and PS3 ports can get made and all be released at once? Release the WiiU version on it's set date, then release the other two in September. Everyone wins. WiiU owners get to play a title they've eagerly awaited. 360/PS3 owners who wanted to play it will get to. Everyone wins.
What most have said is even more disappointing about this push back to Sept. is that it's the same month GTAV as well as the HD WW remake are coming out. March saw no huge releases for Legends to have to compete with especially not on the WiiU. Poor Origins came out the SAME DAY as Modern Warfare 3 and thankfully managed to get an audience. Why would Ubisoft want to make such changes this close to launch? Then again this is Ubisoft and it wouldn't be the first dumb thing they did.
Still want to play Rayman Legends one way or another.
Just played the demo again last night... i cannot believe Ubisoft... This could've easily ranked in an 8 / 10! It's beautiful, fun, and if the game is anything like the demo, hell a 9, if not 9.5 wouldn't have been out of reach... but NOOOO rather market the thing as one... This is all because of Microsoft and their bull**** policy.
@williebazerka The thing about this situation is, that if you boycott it, you punish the developers. A lack in sales shows that the game didn't make a strong enough impact, and Rayman Legends seem very solid, so if people boycott it, it just gives the wrong impression and the wrong people get layed off. This is about the people at the top of Ubisoft, and how their bullshit greed means giving the finger to their loyal fans. Ubisoft has been one of the very few big publishers who has kept a sort of respect towards their fans, but as of lately their falling off of it, and this move is only making them look worse as a whole. Rayman Legends devs aren't happy about this themselves, heck it's a hell of a game they have made, and they were ready to show it off, now they have to wait 7 months - imagine having created something you're proud of, and being told you can't show it. Even worse, they were under a lot of pressure to get it ready for the deadline, which has now been pushed so far away... F Ubisoft, that's all they need to know from us, the consumers.
@DaneGamer I felt really bad when it came out they worked over time for six months,busting there asses and missing time with there families only to get a big FU and a long delay.Were all gamers and we want to play good games on day 1 when they are available.If a game is good we don't want to wait for a price drop or a GOTY edition.But it bothers me that Ubisoft or any publisher can do this and get no repercussions for it.They do it because they can get away with it.And they will continue to do it.
@williebazerka Well let's face it, boycotts never work. Every time gamers said they were going to boycott something the game still sold though I'll see how I feel when Sept. rolls around. Though I do like that the devs are protesting this. More power to them.
It really sucks. It just seems a little unfair to all Wii U owners that they suddenly need to wait so much more longer now to play Legends. I'm not saying that I'm now regretting my first day pursue of the Wii U, there are other good games for the Wii U in my opinion and Mario Bros U made the launch anyways for me, but I was really looking forward to this and having to wait another half a year now to finally get the game, that really sucks!
This game is not a big deal to me, and certainly not a system seller. I know that's not the point though. It is a real shame when exclusives are a dying breed hindered by the promise of more money going multiplatform. I truly believe the industry has lost touch with the gamer. This gen...next gen..it is all about greed. The "fun of it" or "experience" of being a gamer is somewhat minimized.
@nonfanboygamer1 Why isn't it a big deal to you? Origins was great. The week it released, I gloated to my stupid CoD-playing friends that Rayman Origins scored higher than Modern Warfare 3.
No offense but why would you or anyone else really believe Ubisoft would stick to this when they have already profitted more from releasing games in this series on multiple platforms? No way they are going to make more or even as much money by just releasing it exclusively on the Wii U. If you want exclusives then unfortunately you're going to have to stick to Mario, Metroid, Kirby, Zelda etc
However, I do agree with your empathy for the developers and that there really isn't much of a reason to not release it for the Wii U first.
@Double_Wide Because development for the Wii U version is already finished. If it's done, release it.
I won't discuss the topic too much, as it's one of those things that has been addressed well enough. Just thought I would direct your attention to something I found that was very interesting. I hope you enjoy it.
@Madmangamer364 That was so brilliantly done because I do find it funny that they're saying "everyone should enjoy this" ok then why not release other games on the WiiU. It's got that lovely HD you devs claimed you needed and couldn't port games to the Wii with. It has an optional regular controller so you don't have to use that gamepad. I don't want to sound like a fangirl but it really seems like devs are flat out prejudice against Nintendo and want them to fail. After all Nintendo doesn't milk gamers for DLC, participate in Gamestop pre order bonuses, use microtransactions so the only things devs can do is not make games for the WiiU and hope it fails....because that strategy worked so well for the Wii. -_-
This is in Microsoft's 3rd Party policy:
"Microsoft's third party guidelines dictate that all games released on the Xbox 360 must launch at least simultaneously with other systems and must have at least the same features and content. It reserves the right to block release if those guidelines aren't met."
Its not a direct quote but its there, Sony attacked the idea http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-02-sony-attacks-xbox-360-content-policy
I completely empathize with this you and this issue. You bought a console which you were promised would receive an exclusive game, and now the promise has simply been revoked. I'm certainly glad that I don't have to answer to a bunch of investors who don't care (or possible aren't even told) about consumers feelings.
I don't get the reason behind games like GTA V coming out the same month as Legends as being bad for the latter. They're ridiculously different from one another! Origins would have had the same audience regardless of when it came out. Modern Warfare 3 attracted people still pumped for Call of Duty games (which there were a lot of those guys, apparently); Origins attracted people pumped for a 2D platformer.
I'm with you on the WiiU version being pushed just because the 360/PS3 versions were announced as being in development. It loses some special credibility the console could potentially have had were it to come out earlier. Good blog!
@Killermonkey97 The main issue with a game like this being released the same month as GTA V is economical. In this recession, a lot of people don't have a lot of money to be buying multiple games a month and for those who can only afford a game, if they are a fan of GTA and Rayman, there's a good chance they are going to pick up GTA V instead of Rayman Legends.
The Ubisoft execs do not care that Wii U owners are upset because in their eyes, they will still get their money from the Wii U owners, just a little bit later.
@GamerofMario1 I will buy the game used and I will not buy Ubisoft games in the meantime til Rayman Legends comes out and after it comes out. I just bought a brand new non Ubisoft game intentionally tonight. That money was to go toward Rayman Legends for Wii U but not now.
Rayman Origins was a really great game, I had a blast playing it, but I'm defenitely ready for another Prince of Persia even though that's off the subject, I loved what they did with The Forgotten Sands.
I may know why it was delayed on the Wii U. I'm sure I read somewhere that Microsoft have a policy, stating that if a company wants to release a game for the Xbox it has to be released for the console at the same time as any other. So if this it true, now that Rayman Legends is on the 360 it had to be delayed so that Microsoft allowed it.
@widdowson91 What about Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge? The game is already out on the Wii U. The port for the 360/PS3 is still a couple of months away. Ubisoft could (should imo) have used this method. Release the game on Wii U first. Wait a month or two, then announce the ports.
@Jabstor Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge is a different matter altogether. All that game was was a 'fixing' of an already existing game, a game that was already on the Xbox 360. But I may be wrong anyway, Microsoft may have no such policy.
@widdowson91 Yeah, I wanted to try and give an example. It was a poor one though :D. I have heard of the policy though. I don't know if it was for Arcade games, for actual retail games or that it doesn't even exist.
@widdowson91 That wouldn't surprise me.
I really doubt the businessmen at Ubisoft are this dumb. If they are delaying it, they must have solid evidence showing them that it's a good plan.
@SythisTaru Yeah, delaying the release date to one that's in the same month as games like GTA V and the new Legend of Zelda is a really good plan right? Oh, and they already explained themselves to Digital Spy (only found this thanks to JustPlainLucas), the article he got the info from is http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/news/a457208/ubisoft-explains-rayman-legends-wii-u-delay.html
The competition against WW and GTA IV is gonna show, and Ubisoft will feel it, and regret their decission, this is something i'm sure of. NO GAME can compete with GTA, and if you're going against another Nintendo game, Zelda probably isn't the franchise you want to compete with. I feel for the developer, and that they have to go with it, but Ubisoft can suck me, and if i have to wait another 7 months, by then i can probably wait till it's down in price, or even keep away from it overall. Had a lot of respect for Ubisoft before hand, but this shows that their right up there with EA and Activison, f***ing western companies with no respect for their consumers, Nintendo at least had the balls to say they were sorry for lack of content.
I'm supporting the game for the hardworking development team, not the stupid as fuck publishing company of UbiSoft. My only wish is the game makes it to the Vita, because I bought Origins on the Vita, and the game was a perfect fit for it. But I just can't think of a valid reason to delay this title for the Wii U.
If Ubisoft really thinks that the game will sell better if they hold off and release the 360/PS3 ports alongside the Wii U version, they're insane. The people who actually want the game bought a Wii U to play it. Those Ubisoft higher-ups are out of touch not only with their audience, but with the devs too. This is going to hurt Ubisoft's credibility, but seriously, they should've thought about that before they delayed the game.
It is all about sales. Releasing one version first will jeopardize the sales of the other two platform.
@Legend002 Doubtful. There are plenty of people who have no interest in the WiiU but love Rayman. Plenty of people who already own an Xbox or PS3 or both and will be really glad to be able to play Legends after the outstanding Origins.
@JangoF-76 How's your point relevant to mine?
@williebazerka There's the "buzz kill" effect. Releasing a game later after original debut on new platforms that potentially won't be well received in the first place WILL affect sales. It's business.**Marketing 101
think resident evil 6
@Legend002 -He disagree's with you're post and then he explains why.It's pretty obvious or should be.
The answer people is to buy the game used or buy it new way later in a Walmart $10 bin. Sorry Ubisoft but if the game is not delivered in February and if Nintendo and Ubisoft do not disclose why it has not been kept exclusive I will be making sure that both Nintendo and Ubisoft get less of my money.
@DeViLzzz WiiU's dismal sales are the reason for the push and the multi-platform simultaneous release.
Can you blame them? It's not like Nintendo is a charity. Why lose money if you don't have to?
Without a doubt, Ubisoft will try forcing us to use their awful Uplay service too when Rayman Legends comes out, I'm certainly not looking forward to that.
So much third-part support for Nintendo. At least they should've made it exclusive for a limited time, then release it everywhere else. This is dumb. Then people wonder why Nintendo get bashed so much about not getting support and new IP's and such.
Well that is pretty crappy. But a lot of questionable decisions have been made by game publishers/devs over the years, and release dates getting changed for stupid reasons is nothing new.
Maybe they think the game really will make more money in September? It could be that some big-wig did research and found that gamers are slightly more likely to spend money then, than in March.