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29Jan 13

Last week, Gamespot posted an article about the Last of Us, the latest entry from the creators of Uncharted, Naughty Dog. In the article, the game is receiving yet more LE versions, these are now character specific. I have blogged about this before, it would seem, but I found myself frustrated this past Saturday when I adventured into my favourite Gamestop and found that it, and all other locations nearby, had sold out of the Post-Pandemic version, the $160 version of the game.

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  • 12 inch premium statue by Project Triforce
  • Steelbook edition of the game
  • The Last of Us - American Dreams #1 Comic (Variant Cover)
  • Survival DLC Pack (Voucher Download):
  • Multiplayer bonuses:
  • Bonus XP
  • Melee Booster
  • In game currency
  • Customizable Character items
  • Bonus Joel and Ellie skins available once play through of single player game is completed
  • Sights and Sounds DLC pack (Voucher Download):
  • Official Game Soundtrack
  • PS3 Dynamic Theme
  • PSN Avatars: Winter Joel and Ellie
  • Naughty Dog Sticker sheet

On our way home, I was out with my cousin who was visiting from FL, she checked site after site on her phone, Amazon, Best Buy, Newegg, Toys R Us, the list goes on and the only version available was the Survivial version, had the same stuff, just no statue. So why, pray tell, did I go on Gamestop's website today, see the Post-Pandemic version and pre-order it? I know the easy answer is that I have a problem, and to be fair, I haven't bought a new game since Hitman, but still, the question remains. I, like many others, are lulled into picking up the more expensive version of a game, enthralled by the limited nature of the package, no doubt.

Truthfully, I think the trouble, for me, started a long time ago, when I realised I enjoyed collecting things. At an early age, I had baseball/football card collections, then as I got older, comic books and entertainment trading cards. Is collecting versions of a game really any different? I fully admit I have more CE versions than I can count, not one of which is being displayed in my room. Like all my Sideshow Collectibles statues, these too are safely stowed in a closet with my impressive baseball/basketball/hockey bobble head sets. There is nothing wrong with collecting, I think, as long as you know how to stop.

The larger question for me, comes back to the original point of this belaboured topic, why do the gaming companies produce these collectables, is it just another way to pull money from foolish gamers, such as myself?

In the above edition, the gamer gets tangible and intangible items, a statue, a steel book as well as a wealth of DLC. To Naughty Dog, this is worth $160, but will it be worth that to me in May? In November I picked up my AC3 LE and while the game itself was lacklustre, the extras from paying more were decent. Though I may have hated Connor, the statue was quite well made, the belt buckle impressive. The PS3 version came with DLC, as did the pre-order. Unfortunately for me, I never did figure out how to get the saw-tooth sword to be equipped, and at some point during the game play I just didnt care anymore. In advance of release, I think, collectors editions are perfect for the impulse shopper in all of us. In retrospect, I think I need a professional buyer to tell me 'no' when I even dare to pick one up. By that same token, if this is one of my only vices, then it isn't all that bad. At the end of the day, perhaps these will be worth something, even if they aren't mint in box. Games should be enjoyed when played, I know, but the statues and display pieces perfect for bookshelves are hard to ignore. Most statues of the calibre I see with game sets are actually quite pricey, averaging at least upwards of $100 apiece. But does that mean I should get it? I mean, I bought the CE of Ninja Gaiden 3, and I still have egg on my face, as they saying goes.

I know Ive asked this question of my faithful readers, but at what point do you stop yourself, realising that you're spending bad money after good? I think I might need an intervention.

196 comments
xsonicchaos
xsonicchaos

I'm a collector myself and I tend to buy the most price-to-quality worth collector's edition games. Unfortunately, I live in the crack of the world where I barely can find the best special editions of games and ordering from outside this God forsaken country is too expensive and too much of a hustle. Only one game I've bought from Amazon when all hell broke loose for Game and shippings got canceled, that was Mass Effect's N7 CE edition. It was excruciatingly expensive and I felt cheated. And some aren't even accesible here, like Skyrim's dragon, Borderland 2's loot chest or the upcoming The Last of Us any limited edition. That's right, I can only buy the standard edition of The Last of Us. Now I'm deciding wheter to buy the Aliens Colonial Marines CE or wait for the awful Lara Croft action figure.

pokecharm
pokecharm

@xsonicchaos that is tough luck - I suppose I should be grateful I can get the ones I want, for the most part ;)

Wula_
Wula_

I look at Collectors Editions in the sense of. How much physical content am I getting? how much of it is digital? But if it comes mostly with DLC then why didn't they bundle it with the game orignally? So as a result I usually skip those versions and sometimes the game altogether as a result. But when you get a good collectors edition like Infamous 2 did. Where you get half psychical content and the other half is digital. So at least even if you don't use the codes. You still get something to say you bought it.

Other times I wish more CE's did what Halo 2,3, Reach did. And that is give you extra content about the game, and stuff that draws you into the worlds lore more. I wish more games did that kind of stuff. Opposed to the cheap tactic of. Here is your game, some DLC just for you, and a statue.

pokecharm
pokecharm

@Wula_ I often wonder how they decide what to put in a CE - I like more physical than digital myself.

Flamerdragon
Flamerdragon

I only buy collectors edition if there is an action figure included. Only worth collectors worth buying.

Else if it is just digital stuff then, No thank you. Digital crap are rip offs. So are DLC.

pokecharm
pokecharm

@Flamerdragon I think some of the digital stuff, like extra missions, isn't bad, but I do love the shiny statues and stuff, if they're made by Sideshow, I'm all in!!

Zodiax27
Zodiax27

To me, a brilliant idea would be to have a section of a video game store dedicated to video game collectibles - oh look, a Big Daddy key ring, sweet. There could be a variety of objects for sale to cater for each person and you'd be getting exactly what you are paying for (hopefully).

EMPTY-V
EMPTY-V

I say if you have the money to spend on such items and you are not skipping out on your financial responsibilities or suffocating in debt, then it is ok to treat yourself with CE's that you desire. Anybody who says that you are wasting your money on certain things probably wastes their own money in some way on material things that interest them. It could even be as simple as eating fast food periodically instead of preparing food at home. If you're a collector, of anything - it should be for your own interest in these items. I collect video game figures from Play Arts, Figma etc. When my friends see these on my desk they are amused but don't quite share the same enthusiasm I have for collecting figures - which is ok, since I don't collect for the sake of others' approval. Though I don't think every Collector's Edition is worth buying, again I will say its more of a question of "do you really want it, and do you have the money?" It's an everyday "consumer" dilemma. And who knows - the stuff in your closet could be very valuable in the future, just for the fact that the production of these collector's editions are limited. 

pokecharm
pokecharm

@EMPTY-V true that!  I mean, I'm sure these comments are rife with hypocrisy ;)  I am using your logic, I mean, I don't pick them all up, but you never know what might increase in value, though, that isn't really a reason to buy things, but I don't have any financial issues ;)

thelostkin
thelostkin like.author.displayName 1 Like

$160 for a game that you will enjoy for 10-12 hours then put away and some stuff that has no use except to just look at and read... $60 is already too much.. I just don't see the thinking behind this unless you're an extreme collectibles nerd and you have a lot of money laying around

pokecharm
pokecharm

@thelostkin a fair argument, but what if I do love the game and want more from it - then this might be a good 'advance' purchase.  Truthfully, I don't have a lot of things I spend too much on, so I let myself have this, for now ;)  I am keeping an eye on it getting out of control...

vault-boy
vault-boy

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This is a good collectors edition. No bullshit statues, no useless background themes, no stickers, none of that crap. It comes with a game, a nice soundtrack we have loved for 25 years and an AWESOME controller that is sold for cheaper than buying the game and a controller separately. All together, Skyward Sword CE cost $80. This costs twice that. If you seriously think that what is in this case is worth paying an extra 100 dollars for than you are a fool. Assuming the game is even good (yes, it does LOOK like its going to be good, but you don't even know if you like it) and the DLC is good as well then that is $20 off the extra $100 for the cost of the DLC and that will charge you $80 for cheap tin case, a statue and some useless vanity items. To put that into perspective, $80 could potentially buy you:


Another game and 2 DLC at retail

about 5-10 games on the Steam Spring Sale (even more for with some good indie games, Binding of Isaaic was $1.25)

A really nice night out with you and a lady friend

11+ movies at the theater

2-3 months of car insurance

8 people in a poor African country clean water for a lifetime


I'm sorry, there is just no logical reason to ever buy this game's CE. It comes with hardly anything worthwhile at all and at best its worth an extra $25, not $100. Do the logical (and ethical) thing; save you money and buy something worthwhile. You win by being able to get something you would like AND show companies that if they want you to get a collectors edition they better damn well make it worth your while. 

JulyAeon
JulyAeon like.author.displayName 1 Like

when it came to special editions i always looked for stuff that improved my game.  i don't want a silly little booklet, and a silly little postcard that is described as a very special lithograph, i don't go for figures and such.  a good addition for me is more game play, for other people a good guide, maybe more choice of useful weapon or/and armor, but mostly a very good quality game play and replay value.  these days it is all geared up for the multi player market ...so no, i give special editions a wide berth nowadays. too much moronic marketing these days.  If possible, i look for  GOTY, if it is complete with all dlc's.

pokecharm
pokecharm like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@JulyAeon after the recent backlash for Dead Island, I can see that you've got a much stronger argument than usual, but I love swag!  I do realise that I am spending too much money on it, but to be fair, I haven't bought any games since Hitman came out, which is almost 2 months for me!  I feel like I sound like an addict :p

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

@pokecharm soooo... are you just really interested in cluttering up your desk rather than your desktop (so to speak) ?!?   :)  try and think quality, not quantity !!! the more money you will have to spend on that very special game.  when playing a GOOD game, who has the time to look at all the rubbish, eh i mean goodies ??????

pokecharm
pokecharm

@JulyAeon I'm going to be fair on this one, I'd say collector, because I don't keep everything ever - just things that seem/are rare - mostly because I've lost things from my childhood, but I do recognise that I'm a few steps (if not less) away from a serious issue ;)

JulyAeon
JulyAeon

@pokecharm  ok, so i have to ask you, what is the point of collecting all this nicknack if it collects dust in the closet ??? you really are bitten by the "hamster bug".  Be honest, would you describe yourself as a collector or a hoarder ?!?

pokecharm
pokecharm

@JulyAeon guilty as charged, I think - but it is cluttering my closet...I really do wonder if I could do a full purge...hmm...I think part of the trouble is that I'm not hamstrung to the point I can't pick a new game up if I wanted to...I'm not trying to flaunt or anything - just have a job that pays the bills!

Rheinmetal
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Personally I never buy Special Editions for two reasons: I can't afford to, and I'm not interested so much in memorabilia, I want to just play the game. Yes I can't deny that I woud love to have a Big Daddy statuette, or Duke Nukem, or Cloud on my desk, it would be super cool, but I have a certain budget for video games- I already spend a lot in this hobby- so it's a matter of priorities.

pokecharm
pokecharm like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Rheinmetal fair enough - I mean, there is only so much money to be had - I respect that!

g1rldraco7
g1rldraco7

I'm a sucker for those video game sculptures. There is a point when you have to decide the collector's edition is worth the money and whether the editions are worth the extra money.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

I still want to get the GoW 3 Pandora Box... But the truth is, I'm not rich, don't have the money to buy all that stuff, so I rather get the games and play, and wish somehow I get offered the CE/LE stuff...

pokecharm
pokecharm

@DiamondDM13 I have it, it isn't as impressive as I expected it to be - plastic and stuff.

DiamondDM13
DiamondDM13

@pokecharm @DiamondDM13 Still find it cool, best box to keep games.

pokecharm
pokecharm

@DiamondDM13 it came with an art book, which I left in it, but I wonder how many games would fit in there, I'll have to see when I get home :)

-INKling-
-INKling- like.author.displayName 1 Like

If the first step is admitting you have a problem then I reckon you must be ready for stage 2. In real terms I don't think these CEs are worth the money but if you want it, will treasure and can afford it then it's not a bad thing.

What I would say is that you should hammer up some shelves and get that stuff on display. Take a few pictures, post them on GS  and we would all be impressed. Sure we might say 'what a waste' and tut-tut at your careless spending but in truth we would all be a little bit jealous. Maybe that says it all!

pokecharm
pokecharm

@-INKling- I can always get that first step, it is the acceptance that gets me stuck ;)

ha, I like that - I have thought about putting them up...then I think, I have a 2-year old niece that thinks my toys are hers, so there is also that!

starduke
starduke

I just heard the the Splinter Cell Blacklist CE comes with a remote control version of the air plane in the game. That's just epic! However, it probably costs a ton of money. Yet, it could have good value if you compare it to the cost of getting a RC airplane and the regular version of the game separately.

pokecharm
pokecharm

@starduke the highest price I saw for that was $160, if that's the case, that isn't half bad!

SergioMX
SergioMX

@pokecharm @starduke Depends on the quality of the plane, which so far looks good. Most model airplanes are around that price if not more expensive, plus you get the game.

Black_Hand_313
Black_Hand_313

Value is very important to me: even though I can probably afford to pay more for games, I rarely find it extends the time of enjoyment. At best, they just made me want to play the game. It's much harder when I see something else I could have spent the money on. Sure, that one game is an extra $100 but next thing you know, you're $100 short of the next console - or worse, your rent - while that limited edition you spent it on has plummeted in value, so you can't sell it to make up the difference.


And I've seen premium editions like Halo 3, Halo Reach, and Gears of War 3 drop in price like a rock - I think they all came out in September and they were $80 by January. And you could still see them on store shelves over a year after release - not as limited as they said..


Since those games, I haven't bought a limited edition. Yeah, I want one every once in a while - like Halo 4 and ME3 - but in the end I was content with the games I bought. In fact, those two particular cases were good decisions.



pokecharm
pokecharm

@Black_Hand_313 that is very true.  I remember seeing Duke drop to nothing within the week.  I try to be careful, but sometimes I get sucked in by shiny things.

Black_Hand_313
Black_Hand_313

@pokecharm @Black_Hand_313 Haha yeah me too, but I've learned to resist the urge by thinking about the money I lost by impulse buying. It adds up - I have an older model Xbox 360 that's out-of-warranty. The disc tray doesn't always open, it sounds like a jet engine, and I have an ethernet cable running across the room. I'd love to buy a new model Xbox 360 but I can't help but think, if I hadn't splurged on those premium editions and games I didn't have time for, I'd have enough money. That's the thing: you have to keep in mind things like that, and I'd much rather be able to run out and buy a new console

pokecharm
pokecharm like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Black_Hand_313 I know...and some games have been a chore, others not so much - I mean, I get your point, but I still come back to - if this is the worst thing I do, it isn't half bad.  I've been saving like crazy lately, so I'm on the right track!

I will think about your comments though, because all the time I think, I want that, but I don't get it.  Just this past weekend I almost ended up at the nearby Burberry (think pricey coats) and was like, no...you can not go there.

I am getting some games on release this year and my intention is to play them when they are released so they won't be part of the backlog, this is my goal for 2013, we'll see how it goes ;)

Black_Hand_313
Black_Hand_313

@pokecharm @Black_Hand_313 30 games? Yikes! Having a backlog was another motivator for me. It turned into a chore, something videogames shouldn't be. If you're not big on replaying games, no real point in keeping them, though only you know which ones are really worth it.

Yeah, you get points for putting off games ;) and your backlog may actually be the best place to start. Think about how long you've had them and if you really want to play them; try selling half. Sell them for the games you KNOW you want.

Or you could put off buying games that have no preorder benefits and no CE. Odds are when you do have time for it, it'll be cheaper. Is there a benefit to buying Gears of War: Judgment day one for you? At least with Dead Space 3 the limited edition won't cost you extra and has in-game goodies: but that won't matter if you don't plan on replaying them. 

pokecharm
pokecharm

@Black_Hand_313 ha, you've got me pegged :p

I am getting the reg version of Dead Space and Gears, but there is no CE...that's the challenge, isn't it - have to find one I want and not get the CE.  Do I get points for not getting entire games I wanted, like Far Cry?  I said, 'Hina, that game will be $25 in a few months, don't buy it.'  And I did not!

I may not get the new consoles on launch, I have a queue of about 30 games that I need to get through first...I do want things because they're rare!  wait, is that bad?  it probably is...I should purge my closet and see what happens!  I might have a heart attack ;)

Black_Hand_313
Black_Hand_313 like.author.displayName 1 Like

@pokecharm @Black_Hand_313 If you think that's the last premium edition you'll ever buy, then congrats, you've already kicked the habit! :P but let's be realistic.


Let's say you've made up your mind: you really want the Last of Us Post-Pandemic edition. Try to think ahead: think of ways you can make up for it. Say you want another game this year, like GTA V. Try to trade in $60 worth of stuff so it doesn't cost you an extra penny, instead of over $60 like I originally suggested. If you can do that, there you go!


If not, maybe you don't want the PPE as much as you thought. You can still cancel and get the SE - is it really worth an extra $70 for a statue that'll collect dust and DLC for something you likely won't replay?


Are there any games you want coming out this year, like GTA V? Do you want the next-gen console launch day?That'll set you back at least $300 (I'd guess $400-500). If the answer to both questions is "no", then there's no reason for you to buy a limited edition. It means you don't want it for the content itself, only because you think it's rare

pokecharm
pokecharm

@Black_Hand_313 but what if I've already pre-ordered said LE version...as with Last of Us...I think I am getting caught up in the collecting and less in the gaming itself...

Black_Hand_313
Black_Hand_313

@pokecharm @Black_Hand_313 I ended up selling a lot of my stuff - like the Legendary edition extras that came with Halo 3 and Reach - and I appreciated being able to put some of that money towards new games. It's cool feeling like you bought a new game for free, even if you're really only getting back some of what you spent before. I've bought back games I've sold before, but the only limited edition I missed was Halsey's journal and that was something I could've gotten in the $80 limited edition.


That's the thing, it sounds like you're not enjoying the most important part of the package: the game. That extra stuff can be a distraction.


I have a suggestion for you: say that you'll only spend $60 on the next game. If it costs more than that - say it's a premium version - look at the collector's editions you have, think about which ones you'd be willing to sell (*cough Ninja Gaiden 3 cough* lol), and find out how much you'd get. If you're willing to sell them to make up the difference, do it. If you're not, that means you don't want the premium edition as much as you think

pokecharm
pokecharm

@Black_Hand_313 trouble is, I don't replay really either, so now it is just stuff...I sometimes wonder what would happen if I just sold it all, you know?

Black_Hand_313
Black_Hand_313

@pokecharm @Black_Hand_313 Yup, money's one of those things you can never have too much of. I'm not endorsing the other extreme, you just never know. 


Brokensaint058 said it well: statues and artbooks tend to collect dust. Far more important to me to be able to play the game than have the statue mock you for not being able to

pokecharm
pokecharm

@Black_Hand_313 ohh, that is a really, really good argument.  I bought the limited MGS PS3 that only has 40GB of memory and that new GoW PS3 is calling my name, yet I know I won't get it...that is a really good argument!  though, to be honest, I've been really good at saving lately, so the $$ are there...in my savings account, but still!

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